We live in interesting times. Friend of mine is a scientist in France. He just got briefing on what to do when traveling to the US. He was told to use an empty, freshly installed laptop with nothing but his presentation on it. Uninstall all messengers and social media. If he has to surrender any of his devices even for a minute, he shall get it checked by the French secret service for back-doors and Trojans.
I guess I rather stay home then going to a conference in the US.
#science #usa
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Carolyn
in reply to Attila Kinali • • •Attila Kinali
in reply to Carolyn • • •Kim Spence-Jones 🇬🇧😷
in reply to Attila Kinali • • •Here are the European alternatives, but good luck trying to get US folk to adopt any of them…
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European Alternativespenguin42
in reply to Kim Spence-Jones 🇬🇧😷 • • •Tofu Golem
in reply to Attila Kinali • • •Do NOT travel to the USA right now.
Even if the government doesn't put you in a concentration camp, we have disease outbreaks and planes falling out of the sky.
Ian Davis
in reply to Attila Kinali • • •I think this has been the case for some time. Was advised similarly in 2017 for a conference attendance.
This is output from an AI query in respect of this topic...
"In 2008 Border Protection (CBP) began to assert its authority to search and seize electronic devices, including laptops, at the border. This was based on a 2008 policy statement that allowed for the search and seizure of electronic devices without probable cause or a warrant.
In 2009, the ACLU and the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) filed a lawsuit challenging the CBP's policy, arguing that it violated the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.
In 2017, the CBP issued a new directive that outlined its policy for searching and seizing electronic devices at the border. The directive stated that CBP officers could search electronic devices without a warrant or probable cause, but that they were required to follow certain procedures and guidelines."
Dio
in reply to Ian Davis • • •Geert Uytterhoeven
in reply to Dio • • •You can still be denied entry for other reasons, like not giving up your password...
Nicovel0 🍉
in reply to Geert Uytterhoeven • • •Attila Kinali
in reply to Nicovel0 🍉 • • •@Nicovel0 @geert @tieflingdio @id1om Could you please tell me which other countries these are? I don't know of any country that can lawfully force me to give up my passwords at the border. At the very least it requires a curt order which in turn requires the police to prove that I am a suspect in a crime with high probability.
Meanwhile, the US does that regularly on people who's only fault was that they traveled to the US as tourists or on business.
blinken
in reply to Attila Kinali • • •Fluffy Kitty Cat
in reply to blinken • • •dcatoffm
in reply to Dio • • •@id1om
I'd say don't even bring a laptop, period, if you can. You can purchase your burner at Walmart or something once you're in. Keep your data at home on a hidden service server (e.g. i2p) run off a raspberry pi or similar clone. Don't even bring a URL key with you, have that on another online service you can access easier but doesn't necessarily give up your identity, maybe hidden in a pastebin document, you get the idea. The less you have on you, the better.
Antonio Páez 🇲🇽🇨🇦
in reply to Attila Kinali • • •@JoBlakely
The recommendations to travel "safely" to the US, in addition to onerous, make you highly suspect:
- Buy a burner phone
- Delete your social media accounts
- Create a fake media account that is bland or praiseworthy of fascism
- bring a blank laptop with only your presentation
- Etc.
Why would anyone risk detention and deportation to Bukele's outsourced concentration camps?
datenwolf
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