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New political compass just dropped!
britmonkey.com/2020s-political…
(Screenshot shows my result. Surprising no-one, I'm 92% woke to 8% chud.)
2020s Political Compass Test
In this era of post-materialism, where the traditional left-right divide has given way to more vibes-based politics, this test hopes to refresh the outdated policy-oriented political compass tests …brtmnky (britmonkey.com)
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The Liquid Schwartz
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Man, it's soo cool to see an obscure movie title repurposed by Chappo Trap House a decade ago make it into shorthand for MAGA shitbags.
chapotraphouse.com/
CHAPO TRAP HOUSE
CHAPO TRAP HOUSELazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈
in reply to The Liquid Schwartz • • •@OvertonDoors Monsterdon approves
#Monsterdon
Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Log 🪵
in reply to Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈 • • •Isaac Sousa
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •me no likey!
Elaine
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •🇨🇦 🇪🇺🇺🇦 🏳️🌈 🌍🔬🧬
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •I'm slightly surprised to be told that I'm Zohran Mamdani, but I'm not unhappy about it. I'm not sure why that 4th access is Davos vs Dubai, though -- it feels like a distinction without a difference.
Rob Abram
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Mx. Chara Aznable (they/them) of Pnictogen
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •hm
Stephen Foskett
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •George B
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •> An elite group of people have a secret plan to introduce a totalitarian government.
I disagree with the "secret" part. The heritage foundation literally publish their plans online under their own names.
Elric
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Jón Fairbairn
in reply to Elric • • •@elricofmelnibone
I did find myself wondering “what is the optimal number of crackheads on public transport?”
@cstross
Corvid Crone
in reply to Jón Fairbairn • • •Yeah, I was looking for an answer along the lines of "ain't none of my business what other people are doing"
Merc
in reply to Jón Fairbairn • • •@jonfairbairn @elricofmelnibone
The crackheads question can be interpreted in two nearly opposite ways.
Agree: public transit sucks, that's why I drive a big truck
Or
Agree: we need more drug treatment programs so those poor people can get clean
Dan McDonald
in reply to Elric • • •@elricofmelnibone
Quizzes like these lack nuance.
The usage of death penalty in the US is racist as hell, but should've been applied far-more after both Appamatox and Jan6. And I know damned well know against whom.
Jernej Simončič �
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •These are my full results:
Philipp Riederer
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •I get really bad news. At least I can retire.
Mike P
in reply to Philipp Riederer • • •@ascii158 I got Kier too, despite agreeing with the "Israel is committing genocide..." question, which doesn't seem very Kierish.
I have to wonder what the other options are.
C++ Wage Slave
in reply to Philipp Riederer • • •My closest match, supposedly, is the Pope. I wouldn't set too much store by that: I've written here that I'd like to see the Catholic Church destroyed by the forces of science and reason. Besides, I thought Leo was intolerant of trans people.
Nick Kerker
in reply to Philipp Riederer • • •Matúš Chochlík
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Resuna
in reply to Matúš Chochlík • • •Yeh it reads "billionaire asshole or billionaire asshole" to me.
Σ(i³) = (Σi)²
in reply to Resuna • • •No, no, it's "billionaire arseholes" vs "billionaire assholes". Important distinction, that. The first group holds talks about the state of the world, the second just parties.
@matus_chochlik @cstross
Dan McDonald
in reply to Matúš Chochlík • • •The only guess I have is the Davos/Dubai spectrum is a measure of Noblesse Oblige.
🏳️🌈 Happy Pride-onphan! 🏳️⚧️
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Matúš Chochlík
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Thirzah
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Resuna
in reply to Thirzah • • •Wilhelm Gere
in reply to Thirzah • • •Depends also if you're an Indigenous Native of the Americas, Africa, Australia, etc.
Oblomov
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •I feel like I should have Strongly Agreed/Disagreed more, but some of the takes were too simplistic.
Dan McDonald
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Okay... tell me I'm from the US without telling me I'm from the US...
Paul Turnbull 🇨🇦
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Close but I have a bit more hope than you. :)
Jef Poskanzer
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Wilhelm Gere
in reply to Jef Poskanzer • • •weforum.org/stories/2024/12/da…
Steven A. Leach
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •I'm.... rather confused by my results.
‘Tad’ Sander 🍉🌻
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Resuna
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Resuna
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Needs additional options:
Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are...
A scam.NFTs (Non-Fungible Tokens) are... A scam.
JD
in reply to Resuna • • •Σ(i³) = (Σi)²
in reply to Resuna • • •Yeah, many of the questions lack the "correct" answer, and then you're picking amongst the second best answers and there's multiple ones that are all "sort of right"...
@cstross
Gideon Hallett
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Card carrying member of the holy wokerati here (to nobody’s surprise!)
Timothy Clark
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •spanghero
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •FoolishOwl
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •I got Greta Thunberg.
(As often with these things, I take issue with some of the questions, but in a way that's part of the purpose of the quiz.)
David S
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Wilhelm Gere
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Hmmm, 4% more Chud (?) otherwise pretty darned close to yours.
I guess that shouldn't be too surprising either, from my point of view seeing as I follow you daily. Read(ing) your books, etc.
My extra chud might be a few I don't know answers. Don't know enough to give a solid answer.
bitcoin = scam
AI = scam
Quantum Computing = future scam, at least the way they're going to implement it, i.e. get rich quick schemed.
Brynawel
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •I am not surprised.
David S
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •I'm pretty close, but interesting I'm more neo-luddAIte as I'm a sysadmin.
Grievous Angel
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •9% chud. Not sure what I did wrong.
I have questions about the questions.
Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈
in reply to Grievous Angel • • •Grievous Angel
in reply to Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈 • • •@Lazarou I was /this/ close to tapping that option before my brain overcame my libido.
/This/ close.
Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈
in reply to Grievous Angel • • •T_TR0N 📡💊💣
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Fish Id Wardrobe ⁂
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Bloognoo
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Ulrich_the_Elder, 🇨🇦,🇺🇦,🇵🇸
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Matt Griffin
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Σ(i³) = (Σi)²
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •I don't even know what this means. Is this a good thing? Should I be proud or ashamed?
MattChippytea
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •must admit I did not expect this comparison
MattChippytea
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •I also found this really frustrating…. Air conditioning is etc etc - it really depends where you live.
Shoplifting, piracy, fare hopping - are all very different things, not the same thing at all. Who are you potentially taking from? Big supermarket or local business?
Probably says more about my moral relativism.
javitel
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •MidgePhoto
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Well...
Bless you.
Proto Himbo European
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •I have serious issues with this delightful quiz. For instance, the first item (screenshot):
Second item (screenshot): This is two questions, clearly two separate dimensions. Smooshing them together will produce mostly garbage responses.
There are already weird things elsewhere, like I suspect some of the "don't know" answers are scored as a neutral/medium number (which is seriously bad practice in most cases), but I also suspect there's a lot of "wiggle room" when measuring things like this. The psychometrics might not be quite as nightmarish as they look.
Edit: I take it back. This is a shitshow, from a psychometric perspective. And it still probably does a basically adequate job of kind of classifying people (especially those on a far end of the spectrum).
It's really hard to take online fun-quizzes when your job for 20+ years has involved heavy doses of psychometrics and survey design. I blame myself.
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wy knott
in reply to Proto Himbo European • • •Lorraine Lee
in reply to Proto Himbo European • •These Likert-scale ideological quizzes are always a psychometric shitshow. Here's my thorough panning of one a few decades ago:
astoundingteam.com/2010/06/04/…
So I decided to roll my own. I tried to cut down on package dealing and make each response item as clear, direct, and unambiguous as possible. Unfortunately, I am a disorganized slob and the source code is lost to the sands of time. The Wayback Machine did however capture the questions. This is what I came up with:
web.archive.org/web/2016080507…
I didn't include a scoring system, per se. My desire was to use clustering to identify "factions" within my "electorate" but I didn't yet know how to code that. I did play around with the correlation matrix, between questions:
web.archive.org/web/2015050202…
and between respondents (identified by whatever name they give for their ideology):
web.archive.org/web/2015050202…
I did make a little PCA map:
flickr.com/photos/61180684@N07…
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Proto Himbo European
in reply to Lorraine Lee • • •OMG this is the most delightful thing I've read in days! I hope I don't sound patronizing when I say that you don't seem to have a ton of psychometrics background and yet you did kick-ass, very reasonable psychometrics. This is awesome!
If you happen to have the data lying around I'd be thrilled to extend what you did. I'm not a super-expert; my approach would probably be to start where you did and move in another couple of directions, probably
That's about it, because you did almost exactly what I think most analysts would have done, already. This is super cool.
And if you feel like redoing the survey (honestly, if I find time I could put it on my limesurvey instance, since the questions are saved), that would be pretty awesome, too. This is just fun, and I think potentially informative and insight-producing.
You had me at "I rolled my own" :D
Edit: forgot to respond to your review of that other quiz because I was excited about the one you made. I pretty much agree, and now I have a new word for something I have issues with: "package dealing." You nicely identified a consistent problem: the premise of the question was taken as a given when it should have been a question or two itself. They were trying to get at a multidimensional thing with conditionals built in, with a simplistic approach. I've seen that done in ways that maybe aren't awful, but it's never great, and this one was pretty bad.
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Lorraine Lee
in reply to Proto Himbo European • •If I have a data backup it's on my old PC which is somewhere else. I'll check for it next time I'm there. I did find the source code, had to massage it quite a bit to get it working, sans capcha, so hopefully not too many spam responses. I've run it once, so as of this writing there should be one completed survey on the system.
astoundingteam.com/survey/
Lorraine Lee
in reply to Lorraine Lee • •The source code in its current form is here:
codeberg.org/n8chz/survey
Proto Himbo European
in reply to Lorraine Lee • • •Szymon Sokół 🇵🇱🇪🇺🇺🇦
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •apparently, most of us are Mamdani.
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Arcadia
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Netraven
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Breach
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Well that was fun.
Guess I am not too surprised with my results.
Jaime Robertson
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •I don’t know much about Marin, and admit I’m not sure I understood a few of rhe questions.🤷♂️
Jordi
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •well…
Lorraine Lee
in reply to Charlie Stross • •Lorraine Lee
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Proud Owlbear
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Who the hell is Ed Zitron?
John-Mark Gurney
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Starting with this question:
The primary cause of crime is poverty and deprivation.
The quiz kinda goes off the rails.
Crime here is left undefined, and I know they mean property crime and crimes regularly prosecuted by the local DA, but in reality, most crime is committed by rich people who buy politicians to avoid prosecution. (See graph showing that wage theft far exceeds burglaries.).
There really should be an option that is, "I disagree with the premise of the question."
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