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The AI Great Leap Forward
Similar to the #Chinese Great Leap Forward's inflated grain production reports, companies are fabricating or exaggerating #AI adoption and productivity gains to please leadership, leading to increased investment based on made up numbers. The focus seem to have shifted from genuine AI development to "demoware" – impressive-looking prototypes and interfaces with little underlying validation, data infrastructure, or maintenance plans, creating future tech debt.
[…] Entire departments are stitching together n8n workflows and calling it AI — dozens of automated chains firing prompts into models, zero evaluation on any of them. These tools are merchants of complexity: they sell visual simplicity while generating spaghetti underneath. A drag-and-drop canvas makes it trivially easy to chain ten LLM calls together and impossibly hard to debug why the eighth one hallucinates on Tuesdays. The people building these workflows have never designed an evaluation pipeline, never measured model drift, never A/B tested a prompt. They don’t need to — the canvas looks clean, the arrows point forward, the green checkmarks fire. The complexity isn’t avoided. It’s hidden behind a GUI where nobody with ML expertise will ever look.
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In 1958, Mao ordered every village to produce steel. The steel was useless. The crops rotted. Today's top-down AI mandates are producing the same pattern: ba...Han Lee (Han, Not Solo)
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This is key to political understanding: austerity causes a rise in support for the far right. BTW, austerity is *not over*, unless you accept the meaningless official definition. A meaningful definition is "a decline in public services caused by a shortfall in funding". catherinedevries.eu/NHS.pdf
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The irony.
Everyone should understand that at the national level, for a currency sovereign, that would be the United States and the UK, a shortfall in funding is deliberate.
Money goes to the super rich by means of direct payments and privatized public services and economic consolidation which is hardly ever taxed, and the few pennies that go to the rest of the population are taxed, destroying their wealth, but not that of the rich
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Two papers came out last week that suggest classical asymmetric cryptography might indeed be broken by quantum computers in just a few years.
That means we need to ship post-quantum crypto now, with the tools we have: ML-KEM and ML-DSA. I didn't think PQ auth was so urgent until recently.
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The risk that cryptographically-relevant quantum computers materialize within the next few years is now high enough to be dispositive, unfortunately.words.filippo.io
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Couldn't agree more with "the bet is 'are you 100% sure a CRQC will NOT exist in 2030?'" — and I'd also add the operational perspective: "are you 100% sure you've found and replaced every Debian oldoldstable and RHEL 8 box that doesn't support PQC by 2030?"
@neverpanic oh Debian oldstable is not gonna make it. stable might not make it! I have a secret, over-optimistic wish that this will kill the "constantly run software 3-5 years out of date" model of distribution, and free us upstreams from having to deal with its fallout, but I know it won't.
@neverpanic That model is the sad result of upstreams' inability to provide / disinterest in providing stable interfaces. (I don't know how Go is in this regard.)
Of course it won't. That model is important to keep 'upstreams' from breaking things that we need to actually work.
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We inventoried _everything_ once for Y2K and once for DST 2007 🇺🇸 , at least here.
We _can_ and _will_ do it again.
(Doing it for both CRQC and Y2038 simultaneously would be a cost-savings.)
(If you can't make a 100% inventory, ask your Red Team or contact a gray-hat hacker, see if they'll take $ for becoming white-hat red-vest on Red Team.)
I'm still firmly in the camp of those believing that QC is largely stock market manipulation and a snake oil fuelled research grant grift... BUT...
Equally, if we have the post-QC crypto math, it only makes sense to use it. I don't see thee downside.
Equally, if we have the post-QC crypto math, it only makes sense to use it. I don't see thee downside.
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@tmcfarlane I think Scott Aaronson frequently makes the case that the answer to "stock market manipulation or actual progress" is "both, by different companies."
Both algorithms have not been extensively tested and analysed. It could be a significant higher risk that they are broken on classical computers than there is a quantum computer that can do what it stated by the papers. Instead of having quantum computer validating this risk in practice they only work on artificial irrelevant problems (not actually trying to break keys). It would be good to see some real case (even small) where they try do it - this would help to understand the risk.
Quote from a paper that you cite: ", our most
time-efficient architectures can potentially enable run-
times of 10 days for ECC–256 with ≈ 26,000 qubits, and
97 days for RSA–2048 with ≈ 102,000 qubits"
This is for one key! If all "substantial engineering challenges" are solved.
It was not the scope of your post, but a broader assessment at Confidentiality, Integrity, Availability risks with some concrete estimations would help (which is maybe more a job for a IT Security Risk Manager).
time-efficient architectures can potentially enable run-
times of 10 days for ECC–256 with ≈ 26,000 qubits, and
97 days for RSA–2048 with ≈ 102,000 qubits"
This is for one key! If all "substantial engineering challenges" are solved.
It was not the scope of your post, but a broader assessment at Confidentiality, Integrity, Availability risks with some concrete estimations would help (which is maybe more a job for a IT Security Risk Manager).
Considering the stakes, combined with the scope of resources some superpowers possess, plus the "disclose this and it might cost you your _life_" level of "nda" they enforce, I wouldn't count on "a few years". Might already be here?
I suspect anyone who might have the actual info as to what the state-of-the-art crypto-breaking capabilities are at the level of a military superpower, they certainly aren't in a position to talk openly about it.
Can’t wait for the first quantum attack on cryptocurrency. The minute North Korea gets their hands on a large enough quantum computer, that one’s happening.
@robpike Here's an NSA publication on this topic, from 10 years ago. What I love about this is how they describe their requirements: they have to field systems and guarantee their security for 30 years into the future.
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CNSA Suite And Quantum Computing FAQ : National Security Agency : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
NSA Guidance on crypto algorithms, and defending against quantum computing.Internet Archive
What about WebAuthn, Passkeys, etc?
I don't see any movement in that side of the pond. Just as we are convincing everyone to switch to them
@arianvp There is movement in that area already, standards are being updated, and a few vendors seem to have development hardware tokens already, but it'll be a while until this becomes widely available.
@arianvp I do think they should get moving. But also, a passkey with a broken signature algorithm is still more secure than a password: the attacker needs the public key to fake a signature, and that's only in the website's database. I think it should still be phishing-resistant, too.
> If you are thinking “well, this could be bad, or it could be nothing!” I need you to recognize how immediately dispositive that is. The bet is not “are you 100% sure a CRQC will exist in 2030?”, the bet is “are you 100% sure a CRQC will NOT exist in 2030?”
How big is the physical computer going to be?
What are the power requirements going to be?
Is this going to be a quantum CPU that doesn't need its temperature and voltage meticulously managed to prevent qubits from changing?
How many of these are we going to be able to manufacture per year?
If real, this is a super serious threat. Where are our sanctions to prevent the breakthroughs from being picked up by e.g., China? Shouldn't this be guarded like nuclear secrets? It was too dangerous for them to have Nvidia GPUs but zero policies about quantum computing as far as I know?
I thought the hybrid scenario was if ML-KEM is broken conventionally?
@timbray yeah, if ML-KEM is broken classically before the CRQCs arrive (after which hybrid doesn't help you anymore). Which part are you responding to?
> In symmetric encryption, we don’t need to do anything, thankfully
Ok. So the IoT garden must rewind to the Kerberos or physical provisioning. I can't imagine lattices on small silicon yet.
Thank you, Filippo.
I still think hybrid is the way to go. PQ crypto algorithms and their implementations are still very new, with undiscovered flaws. If you use hybrid and PQ is broken by a bug or flaw, no problem, you still have the same protection or better than the classical one.
Even when quantum computers exist you'd have to break both the classical one (with a quantum computer) and the PQ one (with an implementation flaw, or mathematical breakthrough).
If you deploy only PQ and a flaw is found you are *worse* than classical, depending on how bad the flaw is you might not be much better from transmitting in plain text.
IOW a PQ crypto algoritm protects against an attack from a machine which doesn't yet exist. Deploying it standalone makes you vulnerable against a bug that doesn't yet exist. *But* we've seen a steady stream of bugs in OpenSSL, and it is very likely that there will be one in the PQ implementation too.
I think it is more likely that such a bug is discovered before a quantum computer is built that is capable of a practical attack.
For example there could be side channel attacks if you forget to implement protections similar to RSA blinding (constant time CPU instructions are not side-channel free, see latest Hertzbleed attack from 2025 about remote power analysis leaks). And there probably plenty of other "classical" attacks that will work on PQ algorithms too, since they execute on a classical computer...
Of course implementation flaws in a classical+PQ hybrid could be worse off than just classical too (e.g. some C memory bug), but that might be an acceptable risk.
I'm not sure what the best ordering for a hybrid would be, but I guess PQ encryption first, then classical? So you always have to break the classical first (which won't be instant, even with quantum computers).
There is of course a performance cost, but AFAICT encryption isn't really the bottleneck in TLS, from some testing with 'curl' and 'stunnel' they achieve much lower speeds than what 'openssl speed' reports, so increasing encryption time may not affect overall time that much.
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The unnamed American city I grew up in, built out in the second half of the 20th century, had many roads with no sidewalks to walk on.
No shoulders or bike lanes to ride a bike down.
Sketchy scant bus service.
No light rail.
It was aggressively anti-pedestrian.
It requires a lot of fossil fuel to keep a place like that running, so the future has little good in store for my hometown.
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ADUs, upzoning, removal of parking requirements, and a firestorm...
ADUs, upzoning, removal of parking requirements, and a firestorm...
@murodegrizeco The American collective imagination tends to be limited to its quarter-millennium scale when cities can last many centuries, but even within thirty years I can see a return of streetcars, the conversion of parking lots to usable space, even greenspaces, the retrofit of bike and pedestrian paths on former streets; we could accomplish so much with just a little investment and commitment. Add some public charging from solar or wind on the taller buildings and people who need (electric) motors can access them with no import of fossil fuels.
I grew up somewhere fitting that description, but for some years even the Republican mayor was a cyclist and that created some significant, if discontinuous, arteries for pedestrian and human-powered traffic.
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The aggressive anti-pedestrian features of the 20th century expansion of American cities was intentional. It was meant to preclude transport except through the use of private cars.
Shutting out public transport was a purposeful feature. One excuse was that not putting in sidewalks, bus or bike lanes, etc., saved public funds, which paid for much of that expansion, though the money was spent on private contractors.
but how would we go shopping Ben?
In Germany, my brother does not have a car & normally just buys a few things each trip out. But he just took a "Costco shopping trip" vacation to France (no Costcos in Germany) & came back with 2 XL suitcases full of stuff. It was an actual "tour" on a tour bus. Then he & his wife wheeled the suitcases home.
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I'd just let people like these browse the #CarryShitOlympics hashtag for a few minutes.
#CarryShitOlympics is amusing, even exciting when done well.
But the average 4x4 shopper wants their trip to be r e a l l y b o o o r i n g, so they can focus on their whatzapp or farcebook properly as they go thru the motions habitually.
@wavesculptor @angelastella @driusan Yeah, probably. We can't have this climate change thing getting in the way of the latte and SUV
Global warming or traffic injuries and deaths. They're acceptable costs, right?
(There are few things I despise more than people who use their phones while driving.)
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@wavesculptor @angelastella @driusan LOOOL that's great! (err... the comic is great, not the implication on human nature there)
I don't think cashiers are allowed to use their phones while dealing with customers at work
I'd love this even as I also enjoy driving from city/town to city. As I view cars as great for distances over 10 miles, 2-10 miles being bike/trike ideal & under 2 to be walking sense.
*Not sure how many people who aren't athletes have walked from one edge of Manhattan to the other, but as a teenager I pulled off said stunt, because I was really a suburban kid & too spooked & confused by the routes to use the trains/subways much..
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Yeah, this is where I'm at. I live, theoretically, at least eight miles out of town, which is at the very least ten miles to actually go someplace. So I don't expect my road to be bike friendly. I also think it's ridiculous when modern cities are not bike friendly. I think if you live in town, you should be able to do whatever you need to do with or without a car.
@plutarch I've now spent over 7 years living in a semirural area as is my current home, 4 in a big city (3 without a car), and about 25 in suburbia (5 without a car)
I'm now within "city" limits, so most things I can walk or (if I had a tricycle) trike to, except medical specialists, the furniture lumber store & other bigger places in other cities & towns, all of which are over 22 miles away, which is nowhere near sensible to pedal to & from. *If there were better sidewalks here, especially to our town grocery store, I'd likely never bother driving to it, as it's about 1/4th mile away but as it is, I've done the "walking along the shoulder of a 45-50mph road" thing just a few times (when a car battery needed replacement).
In Suburbia & that big city, I had to walk at least 1/2 a mile (each way) beyond public transportation to do much of anything or get anywhere, 1 mile not being uncommon in the city & 2 miles not uncommon for suburbia.
After I get the Kosher meat deliveries to become routine & the plumbing fixed, aside from specialty stores & medical practicioners- I doubt I'll leave town much, hence I will at least try to budget in a trike for grocery shopping.
@plutarch @BrahmaBelarusian yep and I also feel like there should be some sort of compensation/reparation for people (and ecosystems) whose homes get driven past. As we find more and more harms from traffic we need to stop pretending that it isn't harming the people between the driver and their destination.
some of my favorite vacation cities are that exactly because i don't need a car at all.
SF, Chicago, Boston, London, Paris, Barcelona, Edinburgh. all have good public transport but are also wonderful to just walk everywhere.
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@paul_ipv6 Boston is a confounding place to try and drive, too. NYC, SF, hard to drive because of the density, but they were still made for some sort of vehicle or another. But Boston was clearly laid out for people who walked or rode an animal. There are times it takes a twenty minute mile-long drive to cross the road.
@paul_ipv6 National Blvd intersects with itself several times in West LA/Culver City. A fossil of early roads that followed the terrain, later forced onto a grid when everything in LA was bulldozed level.
@paul_ipv6 And I actually enjoy trying to unpick mysteries like that-they give a clue to the evolution of a city. Same as when roads change names, it's a clue to once-separte existences that grew to overlap. Around here, there is Madeira/Olsen/Lynn/Potrero road(s) for example. The names are silent reminders of past towns.
we won't even go into GPS navigation that hasn't been updated for disasters or road closures...
@paul_ipv6 Probably thinking of 192/Foothill, but that was whallopped pretty badly then also. That used to be the way I would bypass downtown Santa Barbara.
@paul_ipv6 I looks at first like a nice grid, but there were rivers and hills once, and they still exist under the pavement and buildings, and those nice straight roads just aren't as straight as you expect. And the freeways bugger the hell out of whatever sense there was, since they came later, massive walls through the middle of a city that you can only cross every mile or two.
Every major city is a terrifying challenge to a driver unfamiliar with roads and driving patterns though.
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oh so true. the streets and drivers are nuts and not at all car friendly. i avoid driving there if at all possible.
i also hate driving in the DC metro area...
i'll drive in manhattan in preference to Boston or DC.
That goes against a basic principle of capitalistic lifestyle, namely that people must live stressfull lives, spend lots of time in traffic and live unhealthy lives to do their jobs so they can get money and save it to spend it on expensive vacation so they can relax for just a fraction of the time they spent on the hamster wheel.
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I remember this one YouTube video I saw, about streets and how they used to be made for people instead of cars; IIRC, they pretty much were all the way through the time of the horse-drawn carriage being popular… so, right up until cars starting being popular instead, in other words. That's about right. There also might've been something about lobbying. Probably lobbying.
My oldest lives in Portland and I love visiting her, it's such a delight to have everything within walking distance. We have NOTHING in walking distance. I mean, unless you want to walk a couple miles 🥺
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@Catlynn It's very true. I live in Portland and I don't really *need* to drive anywhere… 😅
Oh the horror!
@jaredwhite just having a gas station within walking distance would be a huge luxury, having ALL the stuff is heaven 😆
She just moved and her neighborhood is good but not quite as good as the old one. She did live right by Laurelhurst (?) park and it was awesome
She just moved and her neighborhood is good but not quite as good as the old one. She did live right by Laurelhurst (?) park and it was awesome
@Catlynn oh yeah, Laurelhurst Park is awesome. I live a little bit of a ways away.
Who knows what the feature may hold?
I once heard a nice thought experiment: Considering most cars are parked somewhere most of the time; imagine every parked car would be a tree.
Now imagine a good public transport could make this possible.
(I have to admit, it may work better from a German point of view, since we all live quite close together compared to some parts of the US)
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Dear Fedi friends,
Next week I have the honor of doing a presentation advocating for the Fediverse in a really prestigious venue (I can't share more now, but I will after it takes place).
I'm currently working on slides and I would love to hear testimonies from YOU. Why the Fediverse is so special to you in contrast to Big Tech platforms (bonus points if you speak French & can reply en français).
I'll share a selection of your testimonies in my slideshow presentation.
Merci beaucoup ❤️
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@stefanie@social.anoxinon.de @haubles@hachyderm.io I think it is also more than one campground, bunch of campground. Sometimes you will hear another campground having a party and wander over and join in.Supermoosie (Mastodon Australia)
J'aime le fédiverse pour sa nature intrinsèquement anticapitaliste : pas de société centrale, pas de serveurs centraux, pas de logiciels centraux, des communautés souvent hébergées par des volontaires ou des associations, pas d'algorithmes de recommandation visant à maximiser le temps d'usage, la possibilité de migrer librement d'un serveur à un autre, des politiques de modération variées. Juste des gens et des relations sociales. Et finalement, c'est ce qu'on veut d'un réseau *social*.
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Nell'attuale modello sociale, gli spazi comuni, gli spazi liberi, vanno riducendosi sempre di più, a tutto vantaggio dei luoghi "a pedaggio", luoghi in cui per stare seduto, per fare sport, per giocare, devi pagare in denaro o in natura. Così come gli architetti urbanisti cercano di trovare soluzioni per fare in modo che la cittadinanza riconquisti il diritto agli spazi liberi e gratuiti, allo stesso modo gli "urbanisti digitali" del Fediverso hanno realizzato un'infrastruttura che consenta ai cittadini digitali di riappropriarsi dei propri spazi senza svendere le proprie relazioni e i propri pensieri alla profilazione dei data broker e alla manipolazione algoritmica a fini di lucro; questo è il Fediverso: uno spazio comune, pubblico e intimo allo stesso tempo.
en français 😅
Dans le modèle social actuel, les espaces communs, les espaces de liberté, se raréfient au profit des espaces payants – des lieux où il faut payer, en espèces ou en nature, pour s'asseoir, faire du sport ou se divertir. De même que les urbanistes cherchent des solutions pour garantir aux citoyens le droit à des espaces libres et ouverts, les « urbanistes numériques » du Fediverse ont créé une infrastructure permettant aux citoyens numériques de se réapproprier leurs espaces sans que leurs relations et leurs pensées ne soient instrumentalisées par des courtiers en données pour le profilage et la manipulation algorithmique à des fins lucratives. C'est le Fediverse : un espace commun, à la fois public et intime.
@macfranc grazie / merci !
... and now I need to go pick up my child from daycare. I'll be mostly offline for the rest of the day but I look forward to reading your testimonies tonight, when she's asleep 😊
pour moi le Fediverse c’est:
- une expérience bien supérieure aux autres reseaux: pas de pub, flux chronologique, accès facile aux news ; un réseau plus petit mais convivial avec des échanges intéressants; un concept honnête et clair qui me conduit à participer aux frais de serveurs de la communauté php; pas de défauts majeurs. J’espère juste que tu vas faire du bon boulot et que plein de gens vont arriver ici :)
- une expérience bien supérieure aux autres reseaux: pas de pub, flux chronologique, accès facile aux news ; un réseau plus petit mais convivial avec des échanges intéressants; un concept honnête et clair qui me conduit à participer aux frais de serveurs de la communauté php; pas de défauts majeurs. J’espère juste que tu vas faire du bon boulot et que plein de gens vont arriver ici :)
et pour moi plus personnellement, c'est aussi de retrouver un réseau à l'ancienne, où l'on peut rencontrer (presque) réellement des gens, communiquer, échanger, sans se voir balancer des publications commerciales à tout bout de champ.
(Claude translated for me. Mon francais est nul)
What I love about fedi and mastodon in particular
1. Cronological order of posts and we are the algorithm
2. Being able to follow pixelfed and peertube from mastodon
3. Real engagement and feel of community
4. Filters that work, no adverts
1. Cronological order of posts and we are the algorithm
2. Being able to follow pixelfed and peertube from mastodon
3. Real engagement and feel of community
4. Filters that work, no adverts
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Pour nous ( @2bcompany ), c'est le moyen de donner une image plus vivante de nos activités (théâtre contemporain), sans passer par les réseaux commerciaux quittés début 25. Nos graphistes et webmestres (Atelier Poisson et Lionel Tardy à Lausanne) on pu (je crois relativement facilement), intégrer nos publications sur notre homepage 2bcompany.ch
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A HUGE THANK YOU to everyone who wrote in to share what they love about the Fediverse.
I had almost 200 replies (all very thoughtful) and I just spent an hour trying to respond to everyone 😅
Off to sleep now, more inspired than ever. Good night everyone! 🌛
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Pour moi le Fédivers était une échappatoire aux réseaux sociaux "classiques" à la base. Peu de nous admettent qu'ils ont un problème de dépendance excessive sur Facebook, Instagram, et compagnie. Je voulais reprendre main sur ma vie et mes heures tout en promouvant la liberté d'expression, la transparence et le juste traitement d'une plateformes de ses utilisateurs.
Ma session moyenne sur Mastodon est de quelque minutes, cumulant toujours moins d'un tiers d'heure par journée. Celle de Facebook, à l'époque, cumulait aux alentours d'une heure parfois, et je n'en retenais absolument rien.
good night Elena 💤
I never had the occasion to thank you for your tips about self hosting yuno host. I wouldn't have started without them
@filiplachert awww thank you Filip ! I have so much work this month that I won't be able to publish a new guide but I want to show how to set up a GoToSocial profile next 😅
Wishing you lots of luck!
@neil thank you Neil. It's kind of a big deal and I'm both nervous and excited ❤️❤️❤️
You are an amazing presenter and you've absolutely got this :)
@neil thank you Neil 🥰 this is THE ONE presentation I can't fumble 😅
wish you all the luck available 🍀 🤞
@neil
@neil
@neil
you will do fine !
sorry my French is still très nul (working on it), but I would like to say;
The Fediverse is a special place due to it's decentralized nature, hosted by a kind network of volunteers instead of a centralized big tech company. It brings together a broad range of people that feel safe to post here.
(I shouldn't type while walking)
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J'aime le fédiverse parce qu'il ne peut pas être acheté, parce qu'il n'est pas américain, et parce que les gens l'utilisent surtout pour parler de ce qu'ils aiment faire, pas pour partager à outrance de l'outrage issu des news.
Avec plaisir de ma part!
I nominate phire.place/@paparatti/1163590…
It is deeply funny to me that Mastodon is a place where AI bros cry because they can't get any traction, but a single picture of moss can give anyone, no matter their other content or follower count, positive feedback for the rest of time.
love the atmosphere and people here in the Fediverse.
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Don't know enough French. *huggles* 🫂
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Don't know enough French. *huggles* 🫂
My take:
Community is built by people *for people*, not by companies for profit. The fediverse attracts those who are looking for that sense of community online and many find it in the fediverse.
🌈
Thanks. Not sure if that translates well into French, but... c’est comme ça.
Je suis un vieux bonhomme qui a découvert Internet avec le "mail" et "usenet" à l'époque où l'informatique était totalement libre : il "suffisait" d'acheter un ordinateur et un compilateur. Certes,
c'était onéreux. Mais même les produits Microsoft et Apple étaient, de ce point de vue, libres.
Je n'ai jamais eu besoin des réseaux propriétaires sur lesquels je n'ai pas de compte.
J'utilise un peu - beaucoup trop ? 🤔 - Mastodon et Matrix.
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Matrix : parce qu'il me permet de retrouver le même type de relations que Usenet : des communautés de passionnés d'un sujet.
Mastodon, à l'origine pour la même raison que Matrix (ce qui est une erreur). À l'usage, cet outil permet des rencontres fortuites. Par exemple vous. Au fil du temps, je suis un petit groupe de personne dont je partage les intérêts. Mais pas toujours les opinions : il s'en suit des débats toujours courtois. Et quand ils ne le sont pas, je masque et j’oublie.
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Un bel exemple de la convivialité de Mastodon n'est-il pas la belle aventure de Bubulle-Bis ?
Je suis de longue date un zélateur des logiciels libres.
De plus, même si ce n'est pas un critère premier, la confidentialité de ces réseaux est importante.
Ps : mes pouets ont une courte durée de vie
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We don't know each other, but I speak french!
Le fediverse est centré sur les gens, pas sur leur réputation ou leur notoriété. On y discute, on y fait pas du marketing.
On y rencontre véritablement des etres humains, on n'interargit pas juste avec des community managers.
it just feels...organic and non-toxic. As if it was mostly people interacting non-algorythmically with other people. Humane, is the word, i think. Also, im free to up and leave whenever. Its important to have some doors open, even if one doesnt plan to go through them
J'apprécie de ne pas me faire asséner se publicités à tout bout de champs, et de savoir que l'ordre des publications n'est pas manipulé dans le but de me rendre accro. Dans un climat géopolitique aussi instable qu'il est démoralisant, un réseau social qui n'encourage pas les mini-infos décontextualisées, polarisantes et souvent fausses est une panacée. Je peux décrocher quand je veux.
Y'a pas tout le monde ? C'est plus lent ? Y'a peu de vidéos ? Tant mieux, tant mieux, et tant mieux.
Y'a pas tout le monde ? C'est plus lent ? Y'a peu de vidéos ? Tant mieux, tant mieux, et tant mieux.
I have been in the fediverse for only a few months, and I can tell you, my experience has been way better than in any other social network, there is a feeling of getting connected with real people, people who share real and honest opinions, in contrast with the algorithm drive comments/posts from big tech networks, is actually refreshing.
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J'aime le fediverse parce que, contrairement aux plateformes propriétaires, je peux y parler aussi bien de mon travail que de sujets qui n'ont rien à voir, sans me soucier de ce que pensera l'algorithme. Je peux discuter avec des gens qui ont des centres d'intérêt très différents. 😊
Si jamais ça t'est utile, j'ai écrit mes ressentis sur mon blog : aemarielle.com/mastodon-ressen…
Si jamais ça t'est utile, j'ai écrit mes ressentis sur mon blog : aemarielle.com/mastodon-ressen…
Mastodon, mon ressenti | Aemarielle
Mon ressenti très personnel après 2 ans sur Mastodon, un réseau social open source au rythme très éloigné des réseaux habituels.Aemarielle (Aemarielle - Aquarelles sexy et magiques)
oh very very good luck to you! you will ace this. I've seen you present and you're so clear and confident. they are lucky to have you.
(in my terrible French my testimony is that aux autres résaux sociaux je lis, je vois des choses, de temps en temps j'écrit. c'est bon mais ce ne change rien dans ma vie. chez mastodon j'APPRENDS. quand je le ferme j'ai appris des novelles choses et vu des liens nouveaux entre les choses que j'ai su.)
@mariafarrell thank you Maria, it means so much coming from you ❤️ and I completely agree with you re: learning here.
I once replied to someone (toot gone bc of autodelete sadly): "14 years on Big Tech platforms and I learned nothing. 4 years on the Fediverse and I feel like MacGyver" 😆
ha! that is a fantastic quote! you go girl. x
@shanselman once written "Own your words!", so I'm owning mine, have my space for social contacts not governed by people doing it for profit at all. That feels great! We have a very nice #Czech community around and that's all I need for now.
@jan thank you for the beautiful words Jan @shanselman
I have grown up on the countryside and always felt very isolated. I thought there is nobody else like me out there. Until I have found the Fediverse where I instantly felt home. Finally, I was able to share my interests and felt understood. The Fediverse has helped me to become the person, I am today.
Being in the Fediverse has really brought the “social” part of social media back for me. I’m not being gamed for engagement by a corporate company that wants to feed off my emotions, I can just interact with people online again, like how it used to be… like how it should be!
@RobeeShepherd aw I LOVE this 💖
Good luck with your presentation, you are going to smash it!! 🎉
I like that, on Fedi, I generally don’t have to worry about being attacked; and I can freely use words like “albeit,” or “clusterfuck.”
Je suis européenne, et je n'ai aucune intention de créer du contenu ni de contribuer à remplir les poches d'oligarques étrangers qui veulent détruire notre Union. Je suis très reconnaissante envers toutes les personnes qui consacrent souvent du temps, des efforts et de l'argent à titre bénévole pour coder et modérer un réseau social européen. Cela ne devrait pas être un fardeau qu'elles portent seules.
the Fediverse is special, because it feels like "our" network, "our" social media. I run my own Mastodon instance and I love it. There are no algorithms, it is just a whole different experience to Twitter (where I was active for many years before) and other platforms.
As an advocate for open source software and operating systems, Mastodon/the Fediverse is the logical next step for communication and socialisation for me.
Fediverse is a place where the only one barier is you. Nobody tells you how to live here, and what to watch. Choice is in your hand
For me the Fediverse is hope. When everything else seems to be crumbling, I see in the Fediverse hope that the internet can be a good place. Without all the ads and algorithms and influencers, people can be good to one another, and we can work together to build a better future. We all need more hope right now.
@joncounts Everything @joncounts said.
For me it feels like I can interact with real people and have real discussions. So far, people have been kind. I like that I can pay for the infrastructure directly without having to deal with ads, or influencer’s, which are basically ads.
I love how much agency I have in the Fediverse. My feed contains only what I have chosen and not what an algorithm spits out.
Also I feel like the sense of community is stronger here. People are here because they want to be; there seems to be a general appreciation for real personal interaction and not just what will occupy the most minutes of human attention.
il fait rien de merdé ici.
That's pig-french and not very deep. But at least you have one to reject now!
That's pig-french and not very deep. But at least you have one to reject now!
mastodon has a massive problem with unqualified admins/mods censoring content on which they have next to zero expertise
such as genocide and Israel's 8 decades of war crimes
because of its federated nature, a collection of smaller units, each admin has fewer eyes on their decisions, and collectively the fediverse ends up being a racist zionist bubble
and the privileged European conference-goers are wilfully deaf and blind to this issue
have you not noticed the poor diversity here?
@rapsneezy
The aim of the federation is to create as many small servers as possible in order to reduce censorship and European arrogance as much as possible. What is known today as the ‘Fediverse’ is merely a starting point, a long way from what it ought to be. Projects such as Nostr or Delta Chat no longer allow for centralisation – this will not eradicate stupidity and arrogance, but it will take away their power.
The aim of the federation is to create as many small servers as possible in order to reduce censorship and European arrogance as much as possible. What is known today as the ‘Fediverse’ is merely a starting point, a long way from what it ought to be. Projects such as Nostr or Delta Chat no longer allow for centralisation – this will not eradicate stupidity and arrogance, but it will take away their power.
le Fediverse est généralement juste plus sein que son alternative. Tu n’as pas d’algorithmes qui cherchent à te manipuler pour t’exploiter.
it simply feels safer. I'm in the US which is now a surveillance state, my data is in Europe. I feel like if immigration were ever to ask to see my socials, Mastodon is not something they'd think to check.
I wrote this yesterday:
aus.social/@chestas/1163628690…
It seems that echo chamber is the key phrase of the day. Here's my takePersonally, I left Twitter because it was full of bullying and celebrity/influencer worship. I didn't fit in, and felt very uncomfortable.
I left Facebook when my friends and families posts started disappearing and an algorithm started feeding me things I should have interest in.
I haven't used any other social media, except the Fediverse where I have been accepted and feel comfortable, even though my introverted nature sometimes tells me to stop interacting and go back to lurking like on Twitter.
As social media goes, I have found a happy place. I follow what I want, block what I don't, and am really happy with the moderation of aus.social admins. Is it an echo chamber? To be honest, I don't care. I'm not going to the pub with a bunch of people I don't like the opinion of, and that's how I think of the Fediverse, a social environment, rather than a soapbox.
Anyway, I'll go back to talking about chess, and posting photos of Tasmania and cats. And thanks to all of you who happily tolerate me 🙂
#Fediverse #Mastodon #EchoChamber @aussocialadmin #Socialmedia
le Fediverse est une communauté diverse, sans algorithme de "découverte", sans commercialisation de nos conversations. C'est un peu comme Usenet était au début.
after decades of being disappointed by Facebook, Twitter, and Google+'s approach to developers, I'm excited about finally being in control of what I create and share.
here you go:
Best social network money can't buy.
And:
Fediverse proves that if nobody is tipping the scales to artificially boost "engagement", toxic people end up being blocked. Mainstream social media toxicity is not inevitable, it's a business decision, a choice. And Fediverse chooses not to have any of it.
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This is mostly Mastodon experience but:
I feel like I'm in control.
The system is made for me and I can sort and select what I see through filters and lists.
I been part of building the internet here where I‘m from.
Yes, I‘m an old nerd. I never got into SocMed
bc so annoying! Fedi just works fine and doesn’t annoy me. Love it.
Yes, I‘m an old nerd. I never got into SocMed
bc so annoying! Fedi just works fine and doesn’t annoy me. Love it.
On the fediverse we have real choice in who we can communicate with.
We can choose where we communicate in safety. It's not a centralised community, it's overlapping communities choosing to communicate with each other.
We can choose to exercise freedom of association on here, not just free speech.
The fediverse is special to me because everything I post and do is my own. I own the data and can delete or move it as I please. I’m not in a deep-web silo found on closed ecosystems controlled by a guy who just wants to make money from me.
[1/2] Une chose me frappe. Les humains forment naturellement de petites communautés — familles, quartiers, groupes d'intérêt. On jette un œil au monde plus large de temps en temps, et on évite naturellement les extrêmes. Les grands réseaux sociaux reposaient sur l'idée d'une seule communauté géante. Pour émerger du bruit — et gagner de l'argent — les algorithmes ont pris le contrôle, amplifiant les plus bruyants comme s'ils représentaient la culture.
The key attribute of the Fediverse (and Mastodon) is civility - my three and a half years (so far) have included a range of discussions I could never have imagined having on other platforms.
I used to go to a restaurant that was super popular and really small. They had a sign in their door:
Too small?
Too loud?
Too crowded?
Too bad.
I think I can adapt that to the #fediverse
No AI?
No monetisation?
No algorithm?
No problem!
@paco haha so true!
[2/2] Le Fediverse brise ce modèle pour le mieux. De petites communautés de gens partageant les mêmes idées peuvent se former et communiquer — sans algorithmes. D'autres peuvent rejoindre, mais la communauté gère les points de vue extrêmes. Vous n'aimez pas ? Ne rejoignez pas. Ou faites vos valises et allez ailleurs. C'est à nouveau un modèle de un-à-plusieurs. En résumé : une façon de communiquer plus naturellement humaine.
little to no attention seekers, genuine communities, 2000s vibe of free internet.
Je me souviens que l'algorithme de Twitter me fut sentir terrible. J'aime que Mastodon n'a pas d'algorithme; c'est moins addictif, je croix.
Le Fédiverse, c'est le premier et le seul medium où l'on est maître de son contenu et de ses préférences. Il n'est point 'téléguidé' par des algorithmes qui pourraient falsifier l'importance des contributions avec quoi que ce soit comme objectif--l'intérêt que l'on voit, est toujours réel. C'est ce qui rapproche le plus l'interaction humaine dans la vie de tous les jours, car dans le Fédiverse, ce que l'on y met, ne subit aucune altération. Ce qui évite pas mal de choses fâcheuses.
@Eetschrijver 1000% merci pour ces paroles inspirantes
C'est avec le plus grand plaisir ! In bocca di lupo !
Bon bol avec la présentation !
Fediverse is user-policed, empowering and Musk-free. And we got furries and pinball-machines.
le moment où on franchit cette porte, on comprend à nouveau la différence entre être utilisateur et utilisé.
Les réseaux sociaux les plus connus aujourd'hui réduisent les personnes à leurs données et à tout ce que l'on peut exploiter de leurs clicks, leur navigation et leurs questions.
Sur le #Fediverse l'humain redevient un être social capable de bâtir une communauté de gens avec les mêmes centres d'intérêts sans, pour autant, être exploité ou piègé par l'addiction aux contenus.
@s1m0n4 merci !!!! 🙌 ❤️
@s1m0n4
C'est vrai et c'est beau !!
C'est vrai et c'est beau !!
@sturmsucht said something to me during FOSDEM that stuck with me. Posting in the fediverse liberated him from all the 'playing to the algorithm’ behaviour. What are the best viewed tags, what is the best day in the week to post, what is the best time of day to release something. All micro decisions that you can let go of in the fediverse. Also, I see many posts days, weeks, even years old being reshared here. Only possible in human to human communication without algorithms interfering.
@elmine @sturmsucht absolutely, brilliantly said
As an amateur wildlife photographer, I love that here on Mastodon there's a humbling number of people who find, appreciate and share my work without me having to hype it up, use clickbait or make over-edited videos.
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If you look closer at it, the Fediverse isn't a social network but a network of social networks: Local communities, political communities or commumities based on arts, hobbies, common interests, no matter what. Each of them thrives on its own with its own members and their topics. While at the same time each local user can talk to everybody else, everywhere else about every other topic they may have a common interest in. Across the whole Fediverse.
Personally speaking I adore the absence of adverts, I never find myself quick-scrolling (not to be confused with Rick-scrolling!) through endless pages of rubbish content, it's like every post in my feed sparks my interest or curiosity, even during these trying times. And the content of posts here is succinct, informative and not manipulative. I have also had nothing but positive interactions with posters, which is quite restorative. Good luck!
@Showitt so true! and thank you!
I migrated to the Fediverse after Musk took over twitter and never looked back. My feed often alerts/informs me about events mainstream media usually fails to cover, as well as providing less sensational “real news” stories from around the world, which are also sorely lacking on general news sites.
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On the big platforms everything is constantly about merica and trump. Like constant usfedaultism. Here it's more european/asian centered. And also people are much kinder here.
And it's genuinely more down to earth.
And it's genuinely more down to earth.
c’est le refuge des gens qui n’acceptent pas l’inévitabilité d’un monde bête et méchant.
@sknob ha ! c'est tellement vrai 🥲
J'adore que les gens ici sont poli.e.s en général, parfois plus que les gens qui je rencontre au quotidienne 
et aussi que souvent ils/elles posent des questions concernant les sources des informations ou se souviennent de mettre des textes décrivant des images.
Ouff, and I don't mind if anyone points out grammatical errors in the above. No need to be too polite in this case
I’m the algorithm,
you’re the algorithm,
we are the algorithm.
That makes the Fediverse human.
I love that every instance can have their own acceptable use policy, local as well as for federation.
Bonjour et merci.
Les personnes qui écrivent et postent sur le Fediverse, elles ne le font pas pour compter les vues, mais parce qu'elles ont quelque chose à apporter. Du coup, c'est facile de trouver du contenu intéressant, vérifié ou vérifiable et de conserver ce contenu bien visible dans son fil.
No ads. No algorithm. Just a chronological feed of ideas, links and inspiration from people I've chosen.
the biggest qualification for the fediverse is that amongst major social media platforms/ protocols, there is no plutocrat ownership and control
so while there is still conflict- there's always conflict, it's genuine. rather than manipulated and stilted by agendas that serve bigotry for political ends
because the largest problem in the world today is how the media, social media and traditional media, now serves a plutocrat-bigot political axis
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La principale caractéristique du Fediverse réside dans le fait que, parmi les grandes plateformes et protocoles de réseaux sociaux, il n'est soumis ni à la propriété ni au contrôle de ploutocrates.
Ainsi, bien que des conflits subsistent — car il y a toujours des conflits —, ceux-ci sont authentiques ; ils ne sont ni manipulés ni artificiellement orientés par des agendas visant à instrumentaliser l'intolérance à des fins politiques.
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Car le problème majeur auquel le monde est confronté aujourd'hui réside précisément dans la manière dont les médias — qu'ils soient sociaux ou traditionnels — se mettent désormais au service d'un axe politique alliant ploutocratie et intolérance.
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@benroyce merci Ben ! (bonus points for the French translation) 🙌
I really like that theres no algorithm shoving things in my face ('suggesting'), instead I choose what I get to see.
En un seul mot : Liberté (comme celle dans Logiciel Libre).
This is fantastic that you have this opportunity. I don't have anything unique to say to describe fedi. I just wanted to congratulate you!
@kimlockhartga thank you Kim. The pressure is real 😅 I hope I'll do a good job
agad freedom from arbitrary midwestern puritan rules for what words you can use that change every day to keep you locked in an abusive relationship with the zucklizard
Le protocole « Activity Pub » permet de dépasser les limites des différents services et plateformes. C'est ce qu'il y a de plus génial dans le Fediverse.
Fediverse allows me to select/follow/ignore what I want, 24/7. This syncs up with how I navigate the rest of the universe, which is the only algorithm I care about.
this instance has been a huge boon to my social and mental health. finding local, niche, topical instances enables busy adults to find friends and socialize in ways that aren't easy on conventional social media
Le Fédiverse est ce que l'Internet offrait avant qu'une poignée d'immenses entreprises ne gâchent tout.
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il y a quelques années, j’ai “jeté une bouteille à la mer” pour essayer de trouver une location longue durée de vélo à Paris. Je ne voulais pas utiliser de velib pendant tout mon séjour.
Quelqu’un sur le fedi (voir réponse ci-dessous 😉) a lu mon message et m’a prêté son vélo pendant tout mon séjour ! C’était super. Ça m’a permit de découvrir un nouveau Paris, de rester en surface, de rencontrer un voisin qui m’ai aidé pour le garer la nuit. Ça m’a refait!
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@psoul wow !!! ❤️
@psoul c'était moi et c'est mon vélo 🥹
Tu étais la 1ère personne de Mastodon que j'ai rencontrée "en vrai", je venais d'arriver sur ce réseau 🤗
@_elena
J'ai retrouvé en Mastodon la raison pour laquelle j'aime internet depuis toute petite : l'internet qui rassemble et crée du lien.
Auparavant peu habituée à m'exprimer sur les réseaux, Mastodon m'a apporté de la force lors de mon 1er voyage à vélo solo.
Depuis, les échanges avec la communauté ont largement contribué à développer ma passion pour le vélo et continuent de me faire grandir. J'aime que les interactions y soient si simples et de voir certaines connexions se transformer en de vraies amitiés 🥹
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@emeline @psoul
C'était sur ce réseau social que je me suis inquiété pour quelqu'un que je ne connaissais pas pour la première fois, à force de suivre ses aventures lors de son 1er voyage solo (oui, c'était Emeline).
C'est là que j'ai fait les premières rencontres IRL depuis longtemps : un petit tour dans une salle d'escalade parisienne où j'étais en déplacement pour quelques jours.
C'est aussi des échanges avec d'autres Masto pour préparer mes vélorando en famille !
@Eriatolc je me rappellerai toute ma vie de l'émotion que j'ai ressentie en découvrant ton message privé sur Mastodon le lendemain de mon accident, suite à mon absence de post quotidien que j'avais pris l'habitude de rédiger chaque soir 🥹.
Quand je parlais de la "force que m'avait apportée ce réseau" pendant ce voyage, je faisais notamment référence à cette histoire.
Je suis vraiment heureuse qu'on ait pu faire cette session de grimpe et j'y repense souvent !
To me, it is the absence of algorithms. The resulting calmness is what truly differentiates fediverse from the big platforms.
Algorithms favor "conflict" over "dialogue" and since everything is displayed in chronological order, there is no incentive - as a content creator - to "feed the algorithm" to have your content prioritised.
I have yet to see a "Follow link in comments" post in fediverse - because there is just no need for it.
I don't feel like my human rights are constantly being questioned. Moderation is much better handled, specially in smaller instances.
I only see the things I am interested in, there are no narratives being pushed.
I can either have a nice walk around cute things or enter debates. I can choose. No algorithm is trying to force-fed me anything.
I can follow people or topics. I discover new things everyday.
There's no faking being happy. Everyone is human with good and bad days.
I love the Fediverse because it restored focus on People having Conversations again. The so-called "Social Media" sites started out that way, connecting you with friends you lost touch with, and gathering your extended family, but these days they treat you like an Audience instead.
The people who seem to have the greatest frustration using Fediverse systems like Mastodon are the ones looking for "reach" or "follower count" or other metrics of how big their Audience is. This is Big Tech thinking, and I recommend they instead look for people to talk *with* instead of *at*. Because that's where we really shine, and I love this space for it.
@spacehobo absolutely! thank you for sharing this, I agree 1000%
The fediverse is as close to the social magic of Twitter before it was destroyed. The absence of an algorithm coded for deviancy makes the fediverse vastly superior. In direct contrast to corporate social media, the Fediverse is no threat to democracy or truth, and it actively resists hate instead of prosthelizing strife.
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I personally prefer Fediverse over other systems, because it feels like a nice tight knit community where you can be as dumb or weird as you like. Also (not applying to me) it is way more open to LGBTQ people.
[That does not mean there are non bad players. It is open and anyone can join. But those usually get moderated out pretty quick.]
You can easily create your own instance, using various servers and moderate things according to your own tastes. You arent bound by how $company decides to moderate.
[That does not mean there are non bad players. It is open and anyone can join. But those usually get moderated out pretty quick.]
You can easily create your own instance, using various servers and moderate things according to your own tastes. You arent bound by how $company decides to moderate.
i love how everyone mistake the independence from large corporations as if they had control over their own data blasting their posts into thousand servers not under their control
wish you luck
le fédiverse c'est le premier/seul réseau social où j'ai pas honte de poster (enfin juste ce qu'il faut car ça reste un peu exhibitionniste) et aussi on est suffisamment peu nombreux pour pouvoir rencontrer les gens et se faire des nouveaux amis, c'est juste un bonus qui enrichit ma vie sans voler mon attention au détriment de tout le reste, ça me convient parfaitement ! j'aime aussi l'aspect "bulle" / safe space / echo chamber car ça donne de la force pour affronter l'extérieur
there is no better place for DIY ambiance. People don't just cheer good quality work, but the attitude, the wish to make art, fix things or just be a bit more self sufficient. It's optimistic and encouraging!
J'ai fait un bouquin complet dessus, mais c'est un peu long comme témoignage 😆 piaille.fr/@romain_leclaire/11…
Romain Leclaire :mastodon: (@romain_leclaire@piaille.fr)
Attaché : 1 image Découvrez l'histoire de #Mastodon ! Lien vers la version numérique gratuite (PDF - Epub) https://drive.proton.me/urls/AKQQ7E0WVM#xQIxPdhIQM4yRomain Leclaire :mastodon: (Piaille)
@romain_leclaire ha merci Romain, je vais le lire au plus vite ❤️
Ooooh cool!
My French is beyond bad so in English:
The Fediverse allows me to connect to others how I always wanted to - on my own terms, in chronological order, without A/B testing, algorithms, adverts or biases from unpleasant CEOs being thrust upon me.
I have been extremely online since 1998 and have many treasured friends made via the internet from the pre-Big-Tech days, and now I'm able to make friends in the same way again.
@sarajw I LOVE this, thank you Sara ❤️
you're very welcome! Thank you for doing what you're doing 💜
@sarajw
I knew no one when arriving here. Empty feed. No friend. You Sara were among the very first one to talk to me and kindly answer messages from an stranger. Thanks for that.
Je ne connaissais personne en débarquant ici. Timeline vide. Aucun ami. Et Sara tu as été parmi les toute premières à me parler et à répondre avec bienveillance aux messages d'un inconnu. Merci !
@sarajw
Je rejoins beaucoup de monde ici : Le fil chronologique, suivre ce que l'on décide et non ce qu'un algorithme ou des annonceurs décident pour nous, la bienveillance de la majorité, la générosité des bénévoles qui font tourner tout ça, les combattants de l'accessibilité et les surveillants des textes alternatifs, le respect des sciences et de la cultures, l'inclusivité, l'humain... quel bien cela fait !
Et bien sûr foss, protocole, interopérabilité, auto-hébergement etc.
💜💜💜
That is the one thing here which is different to what we have grown used to in the last decade - feeds pre-filled with suggested content, to help you get up and running.
That does mean discovery here can be tricky - but also built in are the local and federated firehose feeds that you can dive into, so I don't see it as a bad thing.
I found making friends hard on Twitter - to even be seen anywhere, on anyone's feeds - you had to keep feeding the algorithm. Grim.
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@sarajw
Oh yeah! when I said "empty feed. No friend" I didn't mean it was a bad thing. Just a fact. That could have been intimidating but that was quickly circumvented by the warm welcome of the people here (and the fact I wasnt in a hurry).
Also I would not say discovery is hard nor tricky here. Following tags or people is easy.
It's just that it can be felt a bit more slow that on traditionnal networks (and i say "felt"). And slow is not bad.
@villapirorum agree with you :)
I can't help but think for some people who use the internet as entertainment rather than connection to people (and no shade on that) they're simply not going to seek out a place like the fediverse. It makes sense then, for it to be more automated.
Salut Elena!
J’adore le fediverse parce-que ça ressemble un peu le village mondial parfait. On parle avec tout le 🌍 , de tous les sujets- mais toujours d’une manière amicale et respectueuse.
Je me suis intégré l’année passée, je suis ici presque tous les jours- et je n’ai vu aucun post insultant. Sauf deux occasions, quand les modérateurs les ont publié pour expliquer l’exclusion de l’auteur de Mastodon.
Et presque tout le 🌍 contribue des choses productives - c’est bienfaisant. Thx😉
je peux décider quelles personnes et quels sujets je veux suivre, sans qu'un algorithme décide pour moi et sans contenus sponsorisés. Je ne suis plus dépendant des sautes d'humeur d'un milliardaire, et si jamais un jour l'administrateurice de Framapiaf devait péter les plombs, je pourrais facilement porter mon compte sur une autre instance.
(Et les gens postent des photos de leurs animaux de compagnie, que demande le peuple)
(Et les gens postent des photos de leurs animaux de compagnie, que demande le peuple)
Je ne suis pas une accro des RS et mon principal objectif est d'y trouver une source d'information différente des médias mainstream.
Mais depuis les qq années que je suis sur Mastodon, j'ai appris sur énormément de sujets comme le vege/veganisme, l'identité queer et trans, le validisme, l'anarchisme,... (ça fait cliché mais c'est la réalité. Ceci dit, je ne sais toujours pas ce qu'est un Brompton ^^)
Les questions respectueuses reçoivent quasiment toujours des réponses ou des "boosts", il y a de l'entraide possible.
Et sinon, on peut juste échanger des jolies photos qui font du bien ou des petites vannes rigolotes qui font passer le temps 🤗
Mais depuis les qq années que je suis sur Mastodon, j'ai appris sur énormément de sujets comme le vege/veganisme, l'identité queer et trans, le validisme, l'anarchisme,... (ça fait cliché mais c'est la réalité. Ceci dit, je ne sais toujours pas ce qu'est un Brompton ^^)
Les questions respectueuses reçoivent quasiment toujours des réponses ou des "boosts", il y a de l'entraide possible.
Et sinon, on peut juste échanger des jolies photos qui font du bien ou des petites vannes rigolotes qui font passer le temps 🤗
I like the freedom & ability to chose a homeserver for a federated platform, also self hosting is :D .
Pour moi, en tant qu'Américain, le Fediverse est une communauté de personnes nouvelles et cosmopolites venues des quatre coins du globe. J'adore avoir rencontré des gens issus de pays que je n'aurais jamais découverts autrement. Mes amis sur Facebook et Twitter n'étaient que des personnes que je connaissais déjà — ma famille et mes amis aux États-Unis.
j’ai évolué dans le monde de l’informatique libre et des telecoms entre 1998 et 2005.
J’ai survécu dans les réseaux sociaux propriétaires et toxiques entre 2012 et 2017, en y trouvant mon compte (travailleur indépendant isolé c’était un moyen de maintenir une vie sociale).
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J’ai trouvé dans le fediverse un espace qui entretien cette socialisation et permet de construire soi-même ses communauté, selon ses affinités, hors d’un contrôle marchand et de l’exploitation d’une économie de l’attention. Un retour aux fondamentaux d’un internet du partage et de la découverte de l’autre.
Les forces du fediverse se sont pour moi :
- la taille humaine des instances et la modération
- la bienveillance et la diversité
- la TL chronologique
- les #
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J'aime pouvoir participer, collaborer et contribuer activement à quelque chose et ne pas être qu'un consommateur passif, pouvoir agir et ne pas que subir.
Surtout à l'ère de la montée de l'autoritarisme américain et des technos facistes.
Boycotter, c'est bien. Construire autre chose, c'est mieux. Et le Fédivers est cette autre chose.
Le fédivers, c'est un peu le Wikipedia des réseaux sociaux.
Nice, good luck with the presentation!
Looks like you already have plenty of responses, but in case you're still looking for more, in light of this: stefanbohacek.online/@stefan/1…
I'd just like to add: The fediverse is special to me because it's a scrappy group project where we all contribute without needing to sacrifice our integrity, whether that's through accepting venture capital, or resorting to ads or crypto.
We don't always get along, but we can all pretty much agree that fediverse has been successful without those things.
Stefan Bohacek (@stefan@stefanbohacek.online)
Pretty interesting read. The TLDR here would be that the Blacksky community is gearing up to vote on whether they want to rely on AI coding tools, seek investments, implement ads, or not grow. https://blackskyweb.Stefan Bohacek (Stefan's Personal Mastodon Server)
@stefan thank you Stefan ❤️
Always my pleasure!
Ça répète sans doute un peu ce que d’autres ont dit, mais pour moi un point très important est que ça n’appartient pas à un milliardaire, ni a personne, y’a une souveraineté sur nos données, à l’échelle désirée, et on peut bouger de l’une a l’autre sans trop trop de contraintes, donc on est pas coincé par l’effet réseau. Les implications sur la modérations sont complexes, mais saines, pas besoin de forcer tout le monde a avoir la même, on trouve où ça nous va.
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Le fait que ce soit plus européen est une bonne chose pour ceux qui en ont marre que le discours soit dominé par les américains (qui ne comprennent même pas la place qu’ils prennent), et a suivre un peu plus ce qu’il se passe chez nous. (À voir si ça marche aussi pour les autres non-américains).
Les fonctionnalités comme suivre les hashtags et l’absence de publicité sont des "a coté" quand même très appréciables.
Bonne chance pour la présentation!
you are unofficial fedi advocate now. i am looking forward to seeing your presentation or some media clip. good luck!
@nixCraft thank you ! I got the OK to take photos so I take very seriously my role as unofficial marketing department for the Fediverse, LOL 😅 (the venue is simply STUNNING)
I've met a handful of people from here in person, just from finding local folks I have more things in common with than anyone I found on corporate social media. I've also met with friends from here who have visited my city. (mon français est terrible, je suis désolé)
My Fedi story changed my life. I've always had bad teeth. Over time I've had many pulled; been w/o molars on the bottom & 1 side of the top forever. Had to be careful eating focusing on soft foods to avoid choking. Gone to US dentists for implants & got 2 estimates at $60,000 US WITH insurance which I can't afford. 2 years ago, a Fedifriend posted: if you need high quality lowcost dentalcare let me know." She sent details & I've been going to Spain for my whole mouth for 1/4 the US cost.
It feels durable in a way that other platforms aren't - individual instances might go down, but the wider, federated whole continues without a blip.
1/ on a plus de contrôle sur ce que l'on voit (filtrage de personnes, de mots, suivi de tags particuliers) 2/ on a plus de contrôle sur ce qu'on écrit (édition de post, les lecteurs sont avertis dès modifications, on contrôle la portée des posts en choisissant le degré entre privé et complètement public)
Des APIs ouverts et des flux chronologiques. En fait, la possibilité de créer des apps (clients) dédiées 100% accessibles pour les non-voyants est personnellement ma raison essentielle pour être ici.
The ability to:
Filter my feed using keywords. Every platform needs this.
Cater my own feed to something meaningful and manageable instead of being at the whims of the slop algorithm.
The lack of ads and there being no incentives for them or any enshitification to be added in.
I can decide exactly what notifications I want or don't want, instead of having to choose between none or too many.
The privacy options are much stronger here than every other social media or content platform.
Je pense savoir dans quel cadre tu interviens (l'annonce est publique sur... d'autres réseaux 😅) et je regrette infiniment ne pas pouvoir être disponible. Je me suis manifestée pour obtenir l'enregistrement.
J'ai hâte, mais vraiment hâte de voir ta présentation !
J'ai hâte, mais vraiment hâte de voir ta présentation !
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@emeline aw merci Emeline 🙈
Le fédiverse est pour tout qui respect les droits des autres.
I left Twitter, expecting to find a similar experience on Mastodon. But what i found instead was community.
I'm brought back to the ways of the old internet, where humans matter and interactions are not fueled by algorithms, but curiosity.
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@worldwidewerner beautifully said!
Cher Président Macron, pourquoi n'êtes-vous pas encore présent sur le Fediverse ? Cessez de laisser cet espace aux trolls et aux extrémistes, quittez X.
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reasons for switching from Big Tech to the Fediverse are outlined in xodus.online/why
Why?
Why move away from platforms like X, Instagram, Tiktok, snapchat? Let’s take back control of our digital spaces. Social media platforms derive their power from conventions: we want to be there beca…xodus.online (Xodus)
@leavex et tous les services publics et toutes les personnes hors des USA ?
privacy and independence, no big tech companies controlling what we say , and no misinformation like Facebook.
The Fediverse is regularly an inspiring alternative vision. I draw on it constantly as a reminder that we are the ones build who build these systems and we can build better systems that reflect different values and priorities besides extraction and capitalization and algorithmic injustice.
I’ll be using the Fediverse as an example in an upcoming keynote that’s on ethics and hope and metamodernism. I look forward to seeing what you speak on once you’re able to share.
Malgré leurs défauts, les plateformes fédérées comme Mastodon ont l'avantage de ne pas être dans les mains d'une mégacorporation. Le fediverse est soutenu par des passionnés des technologies, culture, histoire, éducation, écologie, animaux, bref, toutes les qualités humaines.
@_elena What makes the fediverse special to me comes down to a few core differences from corporate social platforms.
First, control. On the fediverse, I decide what I see and what I don’t. Corporate platforms are built around engagement algorithms designed to keep you scrolling, clicking, and reacting. That usually means being shown whatever is most likely to provoke a response — often outrage, conflict, or sensational content. Advertising is also baked into that model, because those platforms exist primarily to generate revenue.
The fediverse works differently. There’s no global engagement algorithm deciding what deserves your attention. Instead, you follow people, hashtags, or communities you actually care about. That alone changes the experience dramatically. You're not being pushed toward content designed to manipulate your attention — you're choosing your environment.
That leads directly to the second reason: the tone and atmosphere. When I use the fediverse, I’m not stepping into a constant stream of negativity. If I make a post, the people who see it are usually those who chose to follow me or share similar interests. That tends to produce more thoughtful, constructive, and positive interactions. Likewise, what I read is content I intentionally opted into, which creates a healthier and more welcoming social space overall.
Finally, ownership and autonomy. On the fediverse, no single corporation owns your voice. Your posts aren’t controlled by a company, a billionaire, or a centralized platform. Your instance may have moderation policies, but your content ultimately belongs to you. Privacy is also built into the structure itself. If you post to followers-only, only your followers see it. If you post directly, only the mentioned people see it. That behavior isn’t an afterthought — it’s part of how the system was designed from the start.
Ultimately, the fediverse is built by users, for users. It isn’t controlled by a single entity, and that decentralization creates something rare: a social space shaped by communities instead of profit motives. That’s what makes it special.
-Kaelaeth & -Anivara
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when I was on commercial social media I felt like I was drowning. On fedi I can breathe.
I appreciate this platform. I don’t need to be fed by an algorithm. I want organic real people. When one asks a question or advice here they get real answers, from truly kind people wanting to assist you. This has become a novelty on other platforms. Here on the Fediverse it is the norm, not the exception. Plus there are some really smart, funny and compassionate people here. It’s fun, we all need fun.
It's the trust that I have in the Fediverse. The trust that, even if individual instances come and go, the Fediverse will remain - and so will my presence here. And that it will only get better over time, instead of worse.
I put a lot of time and effort into Google+, but then it was gone. Then I put a lot of time and effort into Twitter, but then it was bought my Elon Musk. With the Fediverse, I don't have to fear any rug pull, and that does _woners_ for my peace of mind.
old.mermaid.town/@futzle/11636…
Things you can say to immediately mobilize large sections of the Fedi:
• “I think I might be a girl.”
• “I can’t make sound work on Linux.”
• “What kind of bug is this?”
• “I want to learn how to play the bass guitar.”
tagging @firesidefedi as I'm sure he'll have something nice to say too! Good luck!!
J'aime le fédivers parce qu'il est conçu pour faire profiter des communautés en tous genres, qu'elles soient thématiques, créatives, régionales, etc. Par opposition les grands réseaux commerciaux ont pour seul but de monétariser chacun de mes clics en nourissant leurs algos optimisés pour le ragebait, le clickbait, l'addiction, la manipulation, la propagande, etc.
Humain vs. inhumain.
pendant un certain temps j'avais twitter et mastodon en parallele.
Tandis que sur twitter il y avait des centaines de messages dans mon flux, je passais que 10 minutes par jour dessus.
Sur mastodon, il a avait très peu de messages. Et je passais 2 heures par jour dessus.
Le contenu est vachement plus interessant sur le fediverse.
Tandis que sur twitter il y avait des centaines de messages dans mon flux, je passais que 10 minutes par jour dessus.
Sur mastodon, il a avait très peu de messages. Et je passais 2 heures par jour dessus.
Le contenu est vachement plus interessant sur le fediverse.
it's #DemocracyOfReach.
freedom of speech is not enough if the wealthy determine who gets attention. decentralized social media can displace them, allowing the public to collectively decide what information, ideas and art goes viral. based purely on human boosts. no owners, no algos, no ads. that's the revolutionary potential here. while there's other ways to find and participate in community and be entertained, nothing else can do this. nothing else can so empower all the people.
The Fediverse is a great place to learn about queer identities and anti-capitalism stuff that the super rich don’t want you to know about.
Plus it’s a pretty solid dating app.
Mastodon is unique because it doesn't sell me anything or prevent me from seeing what I've asked it to show me. If I see advertising, it's for real things, posted by their creators, who are people I have chosen to follow, or that they have chosen to follow. Mastodon lets me build trust with others in a way other platforms no longer do.
My biggest plus: No Algorithm. That is the main reason why we have really good content here!
what makes fedi special is that it helped me to move away from my big social addiction and showed me that a social media system without ads and algorithm is possible.
I grew up with Web1.0, a free garden of oddities, trivia, useful bits of tech knowledge, weird and wonderful stuff, which was maybe limited by scant access, and tech-savvy required.
Web2.0 ("AOL") created walled gardens, where sheeple were allowed to see and go only where corporate goons wanted them to. Web3.0 monetized and enshittified that.
The #fediverse is Web1.0+, the freedom to access wonderful stuff, free of corps oversight... now with obscene broadband and storage/processing =D
Le Fediverse est le dernier coin de tranquillité, imperméable au marketing dans un Internet rendu inhospitalier par les Big Tech.
Ce sont nos potagers qu’on cultive et où on se détend entre voisins, là où le reste de la ville est pollué par les publicités et manipulations de Meta et consorts.
La porte de la Fediverse, c'est une communauté bien à soi, que l'on peut s'approprier à sa façon et selon ses propres besoins sans en déléguer le contrôle à autrui, tout en restant connecté aux autres communautés et à leurs membres, dans le respect des valeurs et des besoins de chacunes et chacuns.
(Thanks Elena ! I am eager to learn what this prestigious venue is 🤔)
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@fresseng thank you Nicolas ! 🙏
the Fediverse allows me to choose what I will see (and why). It feels like a more natural way of social networking than the other platforms.
Le Fédivers construit des ponts — entre les humains. Ici, je ne suis ni un utilisateur, ni un point de données, ni une cible marketing. Je suis simplement moi. Et le Fédivers n’a pas été conçu pour le profit, mais pour nous.
It's hard m there's so much good to say about the fediverse...
@hikingdude thank you Franz ! ❤️ 🙏
...because we don't suffer the advertising incentives that built the modern internet into a caricature of humanity.
Thanks to the dampening of that, humans can have real interactions in the fediverse. We are all imperfect, but our imperfections are our own rather than magnified and marketed.
We are allowed to be as whole as we can be without some marketing department telling us we are defective in a way that they magically have a product or service for...
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Bonjour Elena, voici mon témoignage si cela peut t'aider : docs.federated.nexus/docs/55bd…
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well, I've met someone really cool who went twice on a modern art exhibition to get a plushie for my kid on the fediverse.
No algorithms could have done that better than the human chain that brought my desperate call in the big internet void to this amazing person 🥰
Thanks the fediverse !
No algorithms could have done that better than the human chain that brought my desperate call in the big internet void to this amazing person 🥰
Thanks the fediverse !
@LisaBanana awww 😂 your comment just made my day Lisa, thank you! 🥰
I look forward to a future playdate with our little ones ❤️
what I like about it is that holds within it a precious gem, something you cannot put a price on. The promise of a better world. A hope for the future. It has idealism and the promise of world where we all partake as equals. A public democratic space.
Pur trop je ne peut pas exprimer ça en français (encore).
@leanderlindahl beautiful words Leander, thanks for sharing 🙏
People are simply just more friendly here on Mastodon. And the absence of algorithms is for me how the internet should be.
I just don't get the rage from it like I do with Meta products.
I've been so angry for so long.
Fedi is much calmer, chill, easy to nope out if things do get a bit weird in a way you don't like (just mute that conversation, mute someone for a period, or forever, or block, lots of options!)
Conversation is meaningful.
It's random, niche and nerdy.
Whatever your special interest, you can find it, if you look - there is no algorithm hiding things from us or presenting us with things we should apparently love/hate.
It's so much more.. Real. It's not sanitised or exaggerated for reach and clicks. People just put themselves out there for whatever reason. It's more like when the internet was better (granted not for every marginalised group but nowhere has achieved that yet - we can keep trying!)
And overall it's got more good things like: anti-AI sentiment and critique, no quarter for fascists etc. Again not perfect but, a definite improvement over for-profit socials where you and your life are the product. No one is a preiuxt product here. Just people!
The fedi is truly neighbors meeting neighbors: by geography, interest, need, cats or moss. It’s what the internet felt like when it started reaching people via modems before everything became a place for large companies to plaster with ads.
The instance you join largely defines your experience here as they each have their own flavour and differing levels of moderation (some more, some less). You can try different ones until you get a good fit.
I'm lucky that I landed on one that works well for me - they block servers with worrisome content, I can see posts from thousands of other instances, it has a very large character/word limit for posts, and attracts a lot of people with overlapping interests.
Mastodon doesn't work as smoothly as as big name social media platforms. But if you get confused and post a question, people jump in with advice and tips. There is a bit of a learning curve (as every new endeavour has), and the people who stick with it don't mind that.
There are also volunteers who offer help and it's worth following them as they often post tips.
The volunteer culture throughout Mastodon and the Fediverse is what makes it all a great experience.
I've found a great community here. As a science writer, I've encountered and conversed with people with all sorts of expertise in sci-med-tech -- and have found leads for multiple stories I've written. Also, lots of artists who post wonderful artwork and photos. And, other writers.
Once you learn to do things like use hashtags and follow hashtags, you can 'find your people'. There are also directories out there to help you find instances to join that focus on an area of interest. Switching to another instance is easy too.
It's also more international here. I see way ore posts from people across Europe and Australia/New Zealand.
I'm lucky that I landed on one that works well for me - they block servers with worrisome content, I can see posts from thousands of other instances, it has a very large character/word limit for posts, and attracts a lot of people with overlapping interests.
Mastodon doesn't work as smoothly as as big name social media platforms. But if you get confused and post a question, people jump in with advice and tips. There is a bit of a learning curve (as every new endeavour has), and the people who stick with it don't mind that.
There are also volunteers who offer help and it's worth following them as they often post tips.
The volunteer culture throughout Mastodon and the Fediverse is what makes it all a great experience.
I've found a great community here. As a science writer, I've encountered and conversed with people with all sorts of expertise in sci-med-tech -- and have found leads for multiple stories I've written. Also, lots of artists who post wonderful artwork and photos. And, other writers.
Once you learn to do things like use hashtags and follow hashtags, you can 'find your people'. There are also directories out there to help you find instances to join that focus on an area of interest. Switching to another instance is easy too.
It's also more international here. I see way ore posts from people across Europe and Australia/New Zealand.
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Chère Elena,
je préfère le Fediverse parce qu'il est cool, important et progressif. Et parce que je veux éviter tous ces idiots sur les grandes plateformes:)
Bien des salutations de Berlin,
Elke
I think the fediverse is special because it's got that old-internet vibe.
Parce que je peux voir les vies de vraies personnes, éparpillées au hasard dans mon fil, et non ce que l'algorithme essaie de m'imposer ce jour-là. Parce que Mastodon ne cherche pas à pomper mes données pour les revendre à des courtiers peu scrupuleux dans des pays du tiers-monde comme les États-Unis. Parce que les gens se passionnent vraiment pour la mousse, les fenêtres et les vieilles technologies informatiques. Parce que c'est humain, bordélique et aléatoire, et non pas sélectionné pour moi par un système à la Big Brother appartenant à des milliardaires ou à des investisseurs en capital-risque.
@janeishly 🙌 🙌 🙌 🙌 🙌 🙌 merci !!! ❤️
no built-in surveillance or tracking, no ads, no algorithms.
Why I'm not on Facebook, whilst everyone else seems to be, and prefer the Fediverse:
- I'm annoyed by the amount of advertising, which don't exist
- In the Fedi the Moderation is dar superior to Facebook
- I find my people in the Fedi, but not on Facebook (Facebook is somehow dead in my nieche.)
- I feel much safer to speak in the Fedi than on Facebook. There is some toxic culture at facebook
- The Fedi has no algorithm, which amplifies only, what brings engagement, which are mostly toxic things
- Instead at the Fedi is much more genuine engagement even for positive and more rational things.
- The Fedi is open to connect to the whole World wide web by open standards, no walled garden. A Link to something outside the Fedi isn't a crime unlike Facebook.
- In the Fedi no interesting post suddenly disappear just because you got disturbed by something. It is a huge annoyance with Facebook.
- If you post something in the Fedi and ask something, you get serious
hi @_elena fingers crossed for your talk, here is a testimony in French (feel free to cut some parts if it's too long).
« J'aime l'idéal que porte le Fédivers, d'un internet collaboratif, pensé et construit par et pour des humains. Différentes communautés (individus, institutions...) peuvent y créer des espaces où elles décident de leur objectifs et de leur fonctionnement, mais leurs membres peuvent aussi continuer d'interagir avec d'autres communautés au sein de cet écosystème plus large. »
What I like about the Fediverse is that there are real communities here in a way that there isn't and cannot be on websites where every bit of interaction with other humans, every who and what, is shaped by optimization to maximize some metric, like "engagement" or "ad views". It feels more natural here and more normal, and at the same time, messy, the edges haven't been filed off like they have off like they have off the experience of Consuming a continuous stream of content selected to keep you on a website as much as possible.
Most of the things that absolutely destroy peoples brains on social media sites are *just not a thing here*, which is healthy in a way that is genuinely difficult to explain to people who haven't tried it and don't remember this kind of thing.
Not that we don't still have problems (boy do we still have problems), but here, we can start working on fixing them. while on the corporate social media websites, everything just always gets worse, by design.
@halcy absolutely 🙌
Le fediverse permet de penser un modèle de web social qui nous est propre. Si les réseaux commerciaux ne veulent pas respecter les règles, alors c'est à nous de créer notre propre jeu.
@defuneste I joined a server that explicitly shares my values, and I feel SAFE here. It’s the only place online that’s ever provided me with that feeling. And, if it stops being that way, I know with minimal effort that I can go to another server. All this, and there’s no intrusive ads or recommended posts, so I’m in total control of my reading experience. All the big tech apps absolutely barrage me with information, and/or lock me in. They also don’t feel as safe.
Le Fédivers, c'est comme Twitter il y a 10 ans : on peut connecter avec des gens partageant nos passions, sans subir la négativité constamment poussés par les algorithmes des réseaux sociaux cherchant à monopoliser notre attention. C'est rafraîchissant, et ça donne l'impression de revenir dans un environnement familier.
I really like the culture of consent and respect. CWs let you give people notice before blasting them with political shit, or severe depression or anxiety attacks, or just plain old lewdposting. Or spoilers. Or the punchline to a joke!
I also really love how public doesn't mean Public™. When you make a post, it doesn't instantly go to the entire world at once. It just goes to the servers your server knows, and then if someone boosts it, the servers their server knows, etc. Things bubble outward naturally.
This means you get real communities on here in a way that's probably harder on a more centralized site. I'm in a big furry bubble, which rocks. But there's also a large contingent of Firstname Lastname Human Fedi and we see them occasionally but it's not like, constant.
It also really cuts down on harassment when the trolls/queerphobes/anti-furry haters/whoever just don't even know your server exists, and/or have been blocked. They can go be hateful in their little hate bubble. :3
Oh yeah that's another thing. "You're allowed to say anything you want, but people don't have to listen" is actually a thing here! Nobody's censoring the nasty people, they can and do still exist in their little corner. But nobody talks to them. And this wasn't some decision handed down from on high, it's just that all the admins of the servers in our region of fedi went "nah, go away" and blocked them. We didn't have to block them (we selfhost our own server and are our own admins), we just never ran into them 'cause we keep a low profile and don't federate much.
Speaking of... if you're queer, furry, marginalized, or otherwise a target for being banned for no reason in corporate places – around here, you can find a server ran by someone like you, full of people like you. That gives you both community /and/ assurance that you won't get banned just for being yourself. Even if the credit card companies push to get you labeled Evil and scrub you from existence. (...I wish I was joking.)
There's a lot of good here that comes out of it being (unlike Bluesky) truly decentralized.
Nothing fancy, but here's my take.
I've been on the 'net since it was called Arpanet. When the commercial social networks first came around, I was already jaundiced enough that their future business model - advertising, surveillance, exploitation, extraction - was obvious and inescapable.
So I never signed up for any of them. No Facebook, Twitter, or even any of the early ones. Sometimes I knew I was missing out on something that others weren't, but the costs didn't outweigh the benefits.
When Fedi came around - decentralized, independent, non-commercial, ungovernable, cooperative - I finally knew I could join something "social".
I love it here.
I'm on running from surveillance capitalism.
Le Fédivers, c'est le seul vrai réseau social. Ces deux mots sont importants. C'est un réseau parce que c'est décentralisé, il n'y a pas de point central (à la différence de Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, etc, où tout le monde se connecte au même site). C'est social parce que ça appartient à tout le monde et à personne, et surtout pas à une seule personne ou entreprise. C'est donc une place publique, pas un espace privé. De plus, le code est ouvert : tout le monde peut le lire et le modifier, et vérifier l'absence d'algorithmes de recommandations automatiques, de censure ou de mise en avant de certaines opinions. On ne lit que ce que l'on choisit de lire.
On entend parfois parler de tentatives d'interdire l'accès aux réseaux sociaux avant un certain âge, mais on se trompe de cible. Les problèmes qui y règnent ne sont pas intrinsèques aux réseaux sociaux, ils sont intrinsèques aux entreprises qui les détiennent. L'économie de la publicité et de la surveillance : c'est ça qui est à la source de la plupart des problèmes des plateformes appartenant aux big tech. Les gens resteront dépendants à ces plateformes (puisqu'elles sont conçues pour cela) quelque soit l'âge auquel ils les rejoignent. Au contraire, le Fédivers est la preuve que sans ces motivations sous-jacentes, Internet est un endroit bien plus agréable et fréquentable.
On entend parfois parler de tentatives d'interdire l'accès aux réseaux sociaux avant un certain âge, mais on se trompe de cible. Les problèmes qui y règnent ne sont pas intrinsèques aux réseaux sociaux, ils sont intrinsèques aux entreprises qui les détiennent. L'économie de la publicité et de la surveillance : c'est ça qui est à la source de la plupart des problèmes des plateformes appartenant aux big tech. Les gens resteront dépendants à ces plateformes (puisqu'elles sont conçues pour cela) quelque soit l'âge auquel ils les rejoignent. Au contraire, le Fédivers est la preuve que sans ces motivations sous-jacentes, Internet est un endroit bien plus agréable et fréquentable.
Commercial social media platforms are built for ‘influencer’ engagement and sponsored content - the fedi is not. It’s lack of an global algorithmic feed and global moderation make this type extremely of high-engagement content difficult to achieve. Additionally, the lack of an algorithm ensures even smaller accounts have equal voice to larger ones. This comes at the cost of users having to strictly curate their own feeds through follow requests, instead of passively accepting an algorithmicly generated feed. For people used to other platforms, this model can feel burdensome, initially.
Generally speaking, it is misleading to try to compare the fedi to other social media platforms, like Bsky, X, Threads, etc. These latter platforms are singular in operations, ownership, and moderation. The fedi is best understood as a confederation of different communities (which we call instances). Each community has it’s own unique characteristics, culture, and moderation policies. No community is forced to interact with another but must come to a generalized, and understood, social contract, or face consequences of being ‘defederated’ by one or multiple instances (see various fediblock dramas). While this may create – what appears as a – hodgepodge of content restrictions or moderation policies, it is – in fact – the single most scalable and democratic model for moderation possible. This model does not rely on the exponential growth of a large centralized team or the implementation of questionable AI moderation bots, but requires merely that every new and ongoing instance abide by a general social agreement to participate within the larger fedi community.
i don't have a testimonial, but it's important to me, living in the u.s., because of how organizations like ICE gather information on political dissidents and immigrants through cooperation from social media corporations like meta...in other places, identities are collected by social media apps with age verification policies, so we all need platforms that don't collect our information.
@3Fingers this is so true and chilling. thank you for sharing and sending you a big hug
pour moi, ce qui différentie Mastodon des autres réseaux est que c'est bel et bien un réseau social, donc humain. Le restant des réseaux se sentent plutot promotionels, et me relèguent au status de consommateur.
the actual socializing aspect others have talked about and the open model of the fediverse matter a lot to me. such a crowd of people all with very different opinions are able to be interacted with at a moments notice if you run your own node. it was a real culture shock to see all the diversity when i first joined the fediverse in 2021.. of course it comes with its downsides but i think the pros far outweigh the cons. there is no other place on the internet like the fediverse in that regard
j'ai testé le Fediverse pour son absence de pub et de trackers, je suis restée pour la qualité de modération (sur mon server) et le fait d'avoir trouvé rapidement des profils intéressants à suivre.
alas my French is very rudimentary these days.
In an age where most social media sites implement algorithms to control what we see based on the whims of tech billionaires, and people are encouraged to chase popularity and influence, the Fediverse frees us from those algorithmic barriers and allows us to find true human connections and build supportive communities, while giving individuals greater ownership and control of their data.
I suspect others could write it more eloquently!
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interestingly, I'm reading a book right now by your fellow countryman Carlo Rovelli about Anaximander, a 6th C BCE Greek philosopher/scientist who is credited with bringing about the start of the modern scientific method to understand the world rather than attributing everything to the gods' influence.
The chapter about the political situation in the region at that time seems like an apt analogy with social media! (All quotes © Carlo Rovelli)
@teapot_ben I LOVE THIS SOOO MUCH! Thank you for sharing this Ben ❤️ I'm infused with so much hope after reading this
also, good luck!!! You are the perfect person to advocate for the Fediverse at such an important (and secret) event, and I'm sure you will be amazing.
@teapot_ben thank you! I'll give it my best 😅
je vais pas mal répété ce qui a été dit j'pense :
Je préfère ici parce que l'environnement de scrollingl'air bien plus... "choisi"
Enfin, on a le contrôle sur ce qu'on veut voir. Si je veux pas de... je sais pas moi... de vache (pardon les vaches, c'est juste un exemple 🤷🏻) dans ma TL, je choisis tout simplement de pas suivre des gens qui en parle. Ou de masquer les mots-clés liés. Et ça fonctionne !
Tandis que les grosses plate-formes nous imposent beaucoup de choses. On peut bloquer des gens qui parlent de vaches à tour de bras, on continue encore d'en voir beaucoup.
Aussi on est + proche des "chef" des instances, et on peut discuter -
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I was about to write mine when this came across my timeline, almost exactly what I was going to toot.
wandering.shop/@realtegan/1163…
Laura "Tegan" Gjovaag ⛈ 🐸 (@realtegan@wandering.shop)
The thing I like about doomscrolling on Mastodon is that I get the news I feel I need to get - but in between there are photos of cats, moss, and beautiful old trees, discussion of repairing and reupholstering old chairs, lockpicking discussions, out…Laura "Tegan" Gjovaag ⛈ 🐸 (The Wandering Shop)
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@cainmark I now feel I need to mention moss 😂 thank you for sharing this!
Facebook and Twitter tried to build social networks for the entire world. But they demonstrated that it's impossible to define rules that work for everyone and all situations. The solution is to have many communities, each with its own rules and norms, let people choose the community that best fits, and give users the power to communicate to people in other communities.
On the Fediverse i see the things I CHOSE to see, and not what the ALGORITHM FORCED ME to see.
@joergi YESSSSSSS 🙌
This is awesome! Thank you for speaking for us!
I love that it's both local and global for me. The instance I'm on makes it feel very local (because I chose one by location rather than interests), but I follow foreigners and hastags, and get a global feel too.
Additionally, I love that my timeline is not an endless scroll. I can always go on reading either the global timeline, or more chatty people I have in lists, but there's a natural "stop" if I try to use "check mastodon" as a nervous tick or procrastination button.
Additionally, I love that my timeline is not an endless scroll. I can always go on reading either the global timeline, or more chatty people I have in lists, but there's a natural "stop" if I try to use "check mastodon" as a nervous tick or procrastination button.
Ici, tu es un être humain, pas un produit dont il faut tirer le plus de profit possible.
Malheureusement, je n'ai parlé point français depuis il y a trente ans, donc je ne le parle plus bien.
Mais je peux le lire assez bien.
Ce que j'aime, ce sont les conversations non filtrées par les algorithmes de Musk et de ses amis, sur les sujets qui m'intéresse, avec des gens raisonnables.
i use the fediverse because it has more #Social_Logics than corporate media and networks.
foundation of common ground is not profit but interest and trust. .. and with this aspect fediverse is more suitable for human InterAction .
... side-factor: there are no ads ..
foundation of common ground is not profit but interest and trust. .. and with this aspect fediverse is more suitable for human InterAction .
... side-factor: there are no ads ..
It ought to be enough that an organization can have an online presence not owned & controlled by Zuckerberg & Musk, but here goes...
If by "prestigious" you mean they have the resources (staff, money), they should have their own instance. As complete control as anyone can have in social media.
Corollary: Having a social media handle like CEO@Company.social ROCKS! (You might want to translate that to corp-speak.)
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Le fediverse nous donne le pouvoir de décider comment gérer nos réseaux sociaux:
1. Les normes d'usage sont établies par consensus et peuvent se changer par consensus. Cela inclut aussi la possibilité de connecter ou bloquer certains serveurs.
2. Aucune entité privée ne peut censurer nos conversations au fediverse.
3. Aucune personne ou entité privée ne peut transgresser ces normes. Ni son argent ni sa réputation peuvent acheter un traitement de faveur. Le fediverse n'appartient qu'à ses utilisateurs.
4. Par conséquent, les utilisateurs sont plus conscients des normes et des conséquences de les violer, et cela peut s'apprécier aux interactions, plus respectueuses que dans les réseaux privatives.
En plus, le fediverse est un projet très proche à l'esprit de ce que l'Internet doit être, un réseau de communication libre et respectueuse.
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It's an honest platform. Honest people, honest connections, honest content.
Which honestly shouldn't be the exception it is nowadays.
Which honestly shouldn't be the exception it is nowadays.
I started out humbly, on mastodon dot social. Now I run private servers for Mastodon, PeerTube, and Faircamp, all of which run off of a PC in my living room. I couldn't host any of the corporate platforms at all, and here I am looking forward to adding users at some point.
It's also like a knowledge hub, with added pictures of dogs, cats, lizards, birds, arachnids, and countless close-ups of lichen and moss. Plus Monsterdon!
Anyone can join in!
The Fediverse is what social media was supposed to be.
Le fediverse me permet de définir et connaître exactement mes filtres d'affichage dans un environnement riche, libre et varié. Alors il me sert une excellente mixture de découvertes, actualités, confort, chats, oiseaux etc.
Son vie dépend de ses utilisateurs, au lieu de profits/spéculations.
Son vie dépend de ses utilisateurs, au lieu de profits/spéculations.
because like email, all users and servers are equal. As the French say Liberté, égalité, fraternité
Count me as an old guy, in my 70s.
In the Fediverse I define my "algorithm", following people who have interesting things to say or post). It means paying attention to individuals to determine who to follow, and expanding my lists both on relevant hashtags as well as strangers who appear in a thread.
Yes, there's certainly some confirmation bias in selecting who I follow, but the diversity of opinions is large.
I get to see posts in foreign languages, some of which I can read, but most I translate on-line.
I learn things from perfect strangers, sometimes inspired by them. And there's a level of engagement I don't see elsewhere.
les plateformes modernes poussent les utilisateurs à se comporter comme des commerciaux qui vendraient une marque / un produit, comportement renforcé par les algorithmes récompensant ces comportements.
Le Fediverse, c'est le retour au web d'avant ces services.
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Why do I like Bluesky: - Why do I like X/Twitter: - Why do I like Fedi: - Cool peoples - Cute peoples - These things :neocat: :neofox_256: :neobot: :neodog: - Controlled Timeline - idk, just better than other social media platform that I ever u…LinkyKatsumiVT (Furry.Engineer - Duct tape, hotfixes, and poor soldering!)
One of the things that I love most (aside from the lack of algorithm) is that it isn’t so US centric like the other big social platforms. Plus no corporate overlords harvesting our data to sell to the highest bidder.
Je voudrais dire que c’est un bon place. Tres gentil. (How did I do? 😅)
j'aime le Fedi parce qu'ils savent ce qu'est « iel ».
I just like the idea that it's using an open protocol and anyone can spin up a server and run it however they like. The idea that an entire global communications network can be dominated by a couple of big companies is repugnant to me and anything I can do to undermine their dominance is worth doing.
@erici absolutely! well said Eric 🙏
J'ai rencontré deux personnes extrêmement spéciales ici. Les deux ont devenuent très proche à moi. Une est maintenant ma partenaire.
J'ai rencontré ces personnes à cause d'une petite blague que j'ai publié. J'ai fait beaucoups de telles blagues sur des réseaux sociaux bourgeois, mais chaque fois, les algorithmes ont décidé de les oublier. Ici, les gens ont aimé la blague, alors elles l'ont partagé, alors tout le monde l'a vu. C'est à cause de ça que j'ai rencontré ces deux personnes. À cause de l'absence des algorithmes, nous avons pleines des opportunités pour des connections vrais.
Pour les curieux-ses, la blague malheureusement ne fonctionne pas en Français, mais c'était:
Ouais, chuis LGBT:
L - Absence d'
G - Allez au
B - Lit a l'heure
T - Transgenre
The kind of engagement I’m looking for in a social network are conversations with inquiry, curiosity, and kindness. I see this all the time in the Fediverse and get great value whether I’m an active participant or not.
Three years ago a person I followed was having a very very hard time with a chronic illness.
I wrote this thread for them, about growing Saffron … and by the end about taking a breath and making the next moment a bit better.
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Attached: 1 image @bluebirdblvd@mas.to Here’s a true story in the class of things I sometimes call “domestic magic”.Stephen Bannasch (316 ppm) (Ruby.social)
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Recently I find myself thinking and saying: “It is a kindness to have the opportunity to be kind.”
I find more opportunities to be kind here than in any other social network.
@stepheneb so true! thanks for sharing Stephen ❤️ 🙏
true communication, true social/human interest, no advertising, no toxic depressing algorithms, no massive control
In X, I found Nazis
In Bluesky, I found anxiety
In the Fediverse, I found friends
In Bluesky, I found anxiety
In the Fediverse, I found friends
what's special about the fediverse for me is that the feed eventually ends and i can't scroll forever
unless it's a live feed, which i can't bring myself to scroll even for a minute
Fediverse puts "network" back behind "social" where big corps bulldozed in "media" and subverted the good old internet.
Ironically, I think of myself as a big fish in a little pond on corporate social media. Most people don't seem to know much at all there. Here, I'm a normal-sized fish in a big pond. Damn near everyone in my feed has some expertise I don't. I learn all the time here.
Its very simple for me, really, I have made friends here, the neurodivergence network never fails to surprise, delight, and frustrate me, and I never have to wonder who paid to put something in front of me. If I want it to do something different, I can do it.
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interpersonal connections & glimpses in the lives of real people without ads, billionaires, influencers or algorithms.
I was on Google Plus, it was my first social media experience and I liked it. When G+ was killed my online friends moved to a lot of different platforms and I joined most of them. The one that felt best was a diaspora site. Then the site shut down because the maintainer died unexpectedly. Most of my friends moved to other diaspora servers in the USA but I wanted a server in Australia and I ended up on a Mastodon site. I made new friends and liked it. Then Twitter went strange and the whole mastodon culture changed with the influx of new people and many of my real world friends joined mastodon instances. I wish mastodon communicated with diaspora but I guess I would have no chance of finding my old friends again. I don't like the new boost everything culture but it is still better than the alternatives. I meet and interact with interesting people and they react to my comments. It gives me connections that I wouldn't have otherwise and I still have a stream that I can mostly get through each day.
@Steveg58 thank you Steve
you'll do great. The Fediverse is lucky to have an ambassador like you. We're lucky to have an ambassador like you.
@seindal awww thank you René 🥰 ❤️
The Fediverse is such a special place, because people try at least to be nice and educated to each other ❤️
Mainly because it's European.
I used to love Twitter but then a terrible person took it away from me. Nobody can take Mastodon away! It's a system, not a website or a company.
J'aimais Twitter mais puis un person affreux m'en à emporté ca. Personne peut emporter Mastodon! C'est une système, pas une site web ou une compagnie.
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According to the Internet Archive's Wayback machine I joined the proto-Fediverse (identi.ca) in 2008. It was fun. It was people who were not normal. We inspired each other to self-host, to make silly podcasts, and to share.
Eventually, I started thinking "Wow. I follow a lot of trans women. Well, I suppose that just shows what a diverse community we are."
There followed a series of personal epiphanies. I cocooned for a few years.
(Apologies because my French is not fantastic!)
Je suis Américaine, et le Fediverse a été absolument crucial pour que je puisse continuer d'accéder à des médias indépendants et à des perspectives importantes venues du monde entier. Je lui en suis très reconnaissante.
good luck!
And as for me, I love that the fediverse is all us as humans, not us as a product someone else makes money with.
Awesome to see that you reaching more and more people with your great work. Enjoy the presentation and that audience. I'm sure you will shine 🌞
The Fediverse is special to me because it's full of interesting and friendly people and I can always find an engaging conversation to join or just read. Unlike the big commercial sites, the Fediverse lets me control my own feed, so I see just what I want to see and nothing else — no adverts, no hate speech and no ragebait designed to keep me on the site regardless of the cost to my mental health.
But more than that, the Fediverse is where, late in life, I discovered that I'm autistic, and lots of lovely autistic people helped me understand what that means and how to use it to understand the past and improve the future. That realisation has revolutionised my life. Even if the Fediverse disappeared tomorrow, I'd carry the gift of that insight with me for the rest of my life.
Pour moi, le #Fediverse, c'est être véritablement maître de mes propres données et de mon identité numérique. De plus, héberger ma propre instance sur le Fediverse relève moins d'un choix technique que d'un acte politique: affirmer que la présence numérique peut être autonome et ne pas se réduire à la logique de l'attention et des marchés.
I like the fediverse because it's my third place.
People I follow are real humans with their own unique traits. I don't agree with everyone, but I learn about the world as it is right now.
People I follow are real humans with their own unique traits. I don't agree with everyone, but I learn about the world as it is right now.
Fedi is full of people on the leading edge, especially in science. People are building things and discovering things. You can be part of it, or you can just watch. People here love to learn, and the excitement is contagious.
I love that the Fediverse is what I want when I want it. Curated lists take me straight to the latest news or hobbies. An algorithm isn't hiding things on me or pushing someone's paid advertising.
Discussions are real here. It has a small town feel.
And yes. I feel closer to leading edge thinkers here. And a comment is likely to get a response. It feels more respectful around here.
I was already an adult when internet became available to everyone and so I am certainly old enough to remember the first social media. Fediverse is as social media was originally invented: people sharing stuff to more or less public circles and everyone deciding for themselves whose stuff they follow. It's not that Fediverse is special or new (it isn't); it's only that algorithmic commercialization ruined the other platforms.
Also it's still August here. September hasn't even started.
The Fediverse is a place which by its nature promotes building community rather than followers. It lets me meet interesting people to explore my interests with.
@pilum thank you for sharing these beautiful words ❤️
It just may be the only meaningful media platform today that is free of advertising, removing significant stress from participation. Plus the people are delightful.
the fediverse is... difficult. It's not nearly as easy as "go to Twitter.com and you'll be tapped into the feed". It takes research, and work, and a little bit of technical knowledge to make a mastodon account and add users from different instances.
This modicum of difficulty has been a SPECTACULAR remedy to the Eternal September of the rest of the internet. So many people post thoughtful, quality content, everyone seems educated and knowledgeable. No dummies allowed.
I’ve never felt comfortable being active in other social spaces, the interactions tend to be really highly strung, you’re a hero and a villain at the same time due to the algorithm feed. This place is so much more chill, and the conversations are way more thoughtful and respectful.
Le fédivers/la fédvierse appartient aux utilisateurs et non à une grosse société et son CEO blanc cis mascu.
C'est tout.
For me the Fediverse is special because most of the people you meet here are willing to share their thoughts and/or discuss on equal terms. Even if there is a difference in opinions, there is a common, fact based ground. Unprovable personal beliefs are normally marked as such and not framed as THE TRUTH.
I wished is was that easy in real life. ;)
I wished is was that easy in real life. ;)
- Part of what makes the Fediverse special is how UNspecial it is. It's not flashy, it doesn't go out of its way trying to "wow" you. It's pretty simple and boring technology. A mechanism. A standard. It just gets the job done.
- It's permissionless. Which is basically another word for "free as in speech". There's no big rich corporation behind it. There's no dictator at the top. You don't need to ask anybody. Your account is your own. Your server is your own. Your Fediverse software, in case you write it, is your own. The consequences are also your own. It does mean that the entry threshold is steeper, because nobody is coming to baby you into signing on and building your own social graph, but that's the deal.
- This, however means, that if you're invested into finding friends on your own, it very quickly starts feeling like a true home. I've found friends here. I've found a family here. My ragtag tribe of adorable goofballs. No other social network can provide that.
ok here goes!
What really impresses me?
The Fediverse has diversity built-in. It is a core function.
ActivityPub enables a truly open and interconnected social web of people and platforms that is more like the original 'world wide web'.
While currently it is small, and thus less diverse in active users than the established giants, the way ActivityPub and the Fediverse are built means diversity can, and should be, infinite.
That's why I believe this place will thrive.
You have a bajillion of these so I'll be short,
#Fedi is the public radio of social media.
Meta, LinkedIn, Xhitter, BSky are giant trees, users (the leaves) send their nutrients (data) to the (billionaire owned) trunk.
#Fedi is a slow-growth forest of interconnected plants all sharing with each other.
And this is hardest to convey, #fedi isn't for people looking for audiences, or influencers, or "engagement". #fedi is for building a social network of relationships and interaction.
#fedi
The fact that Blacksky is to my knowledge the only fully independent implementation of ATproto and otherwise supposedly independent PDSes still have to interact with Bsky's corporate infrastructure at some point, don't really help Bsky's decentralization claims either.
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[1/2] un sujet passionnant, bravo pour le travail de recueil et courage pour la synthèse !
De mon côté j'aime le fait qu'il n'y ait pas d'algorithme et donc que les contenus ne sont pas écrits pour être provocateurs, ce qui favorise les extrêmes, la violence et les clivages au détriment de la mesure, de l'intelligence, de l'empathie et du respect d'autrui. Et j'adore qu’il n'y ait pas de vidéos "obligatoires" qui ne servent à rien de plus qu'à attirer l'attention pour ne rien dire !
De mon côté j'aime le fait qu'il n'y ait pas d'algorithme et donc que les contenus ne sont pas écrits pour être provocateurs, ce qui favorise les extrêmes, la violence et les clivages au détriment de la mesure, de l'intelligence, de l'empathie et du respect d'autrui. Et j'adore qu’il n'y ait pas de vidéos "obligatoires" qui ne servent à rien de plus qu'à attirer l'attention pour ne rien dire !
[2/2] et j'adore aussi qu'il n'y ait pas un "ego démesuré qui veut s'en mettre plein les poches et dicter son point de vue" aux commandes de l'algorithme qui dicte ce que tu as ou non le droit de voir. J'utilise le Fediverse depuis peu et j'apprends encore à trouver qui suivre mais je préfère ça plutôt qu'on choisisse pour moi (d'autant que j'ai des intérêts éclectiques et que je suis curieuse, j'aime apprendre des choses que je ne connais pas et ça l’algorithme a du mal à le comprendre)
I was an active Twitter user from March 2007 and have some great memories from my participation there. When the leadership of Twitter abandoned its users and left the platform to become a garbage fire, I decided I would absolutely not let that happen to me again. I am so happy the Fediverse was there to turn to. It is place that cannot be bought or sold by a rich guy with a chainsaw. It is a place run by communities for communities.
Il y a quelques années, j’ai lancé le projet social.overheid.nl à partir d’une conviction simple : une communication ouverte de la part du gouvernement rend les Pays-Bas plus forts.
C’est encourageant de voir que ce mouvement se poursuit, notamment au sein de notre administration fiscale. La transparence, le dialogue et les plateformes numériques ne sont pas des “atouts”, mais essentiels pour instaurer la confiance.
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You will perhaps be unsurprised to learn that these initiatives have nothing to do with retirement or transparency, and everything to do with billionaires attempting to defeat a proposed tax on the ultra-rich.
Follow the money. “Cui bono?”
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It’s been a weird couple days; I keep running into this talking point that “journalists won’t use Mastodon unless we incentivize engagement farming”.
Meanwhile I’m having a *great* experience here, because I use it to— I dunno— actually talk to people and form relationships?
I reject the premise that mastodon isn’t useful for reporters. I think it’s more accurate that modern news orgs use social media in purely extractive ways.
You might get more reporters that way, but you won’t like them.
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I really like this. Thank you writing this. I mean it is useful to be able to reach the people who care about your work but we should form real relationships with people who care.
@OliviaVespera thanks, fam. Sometimes I feel like the phrase “personal brand” has just absolutely melted our minds.
Surely the point of social media is to communicate with people? And surely the point of reporting is to do the same.
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And I mean, is that really want you want? Or is it just what you’re used to?
I think if we’re honest with ourselves, the “service” most reporters provide on social media is entirely self-serving. A one-way firehose of signal boosting and self promotion.
“Look at me! I wrote this story. Click on it!”
And then you ask them a question, or have a correction, and nobody reads it, because Wired doesn’t care about building a community, just reaching a consumer. It’s fire and forget.
We already have a tool for that, it’s RSS. What value does reposting a link here provide?
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I wasn't on Twitter before its downfall, but from what I've heard I got the impression that microblogging was a two-way street with journalists, scientists and 'common' folk.
It probably was more like you are suggesting though. But it does make me wonder if early Twitter really was less self-serving in a way.
@odd I’m not sure. I wasn’t on Twitter in the early days. By the time I got there it already sucked. lol
I did get to experience invite-only Bluesky, but I can’t really comment on it from a reporting standpoint because I only used it to shitpost. Which was very community oriented, but totally devoid of professional value.
Mastodon really is the only place I’ve had any interest in my work and I just assume that’s cause I’m pals with folks that live in Seattle here.
@odd when twitter was smaller, two way conversation was indeed more common, there was
more a vibe of experimentation and play- and the rules were a bit different than how it is now:
no pictures, no replies, no retweets, no search, and history only could go back about 100 posts.
as soon as retweets, replies and search got added, the vibe got less fun because retweets let dumb throwaway remarks go “viral”, blind replies turned virality into pile ons, and search enabled kiwifarms style analysis of targets
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@bri7 @odd I bet the internet itself is also kind of different than back then. I don’t have a base for comparison with twitter but I encountered this recently going back to play WoW.
It’s like.. the sewage we’ve all been wading in has made people more cautious and cynical. So it’s kind of just harder to talk to strangers than it used to be online?
At least, it’s hard to imagine using the internet in some of the ways that used to feel normal.
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@bri7 @odd exactly. Britain's Communications Ministry (Ofcom) recently noticed that folk were using social media less. and moving to private messenger services.
A lot (especially younger women) have had way too many bad experiences to go around "talking to strangers", and I don't think they are going to be flocking to Fedi either - the damage has already been done.
Could be. I'm pretty nostalgic for the time when search was Webcrawler and Altavista. Don't know if the early internet was as trustworthy as I'd give it credit for now, but at least there were less financial incentives to lie to users.
Now I don't really have the energy to retake the net. I read about the small web and it sounds a lot of fun, but somehow I can't really get the hang of it.
@bri7
It is different. It was more fun 2 decades ago. The Internet wasn’t controlled by grifters running scams.
I was talking with a friend about the dead Internet theory, and how it relates to online services, and everything really. Something starts cool, gets popular, reaches the mainstream then dies due to it being overrun by desperate crabs trying to make a dollar in this capitalist hellscape to escape the bucket.
This time, most of the Web is on the backside of the bell curve rather than a single service.
Because there is no way to _know_ who anyone actually *is* in an online enviro now. The only way to be sure who anyone is, online, is to know them irl. Voice, video, images, identity- it can all be easily faked now. The world of posting up yr pic in a gaming or a hobby forum (what's left of them) and making close LD friends is pretty over. Sharing your voice, image and personal life now is just setting yourself up as a target for fraud. Sux, but that is the internet today.
@odd there’s a nuance there. Mentions came before replies; and there’s the subtle difference that a mention didn’t create a thread. there was no reply threads for a long time so “replies” were implied by time. so if someone was experiencing a pile on the only way to know is to go to the “mentions” tab on their profile.
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@odd I had an invite to the Bluesky thing but I remembered how much Fecesbook and Twittler sucked so I declined. I imagined I would get inappropriate ads eventually as I did on Twittler. On commercial social media, we are not the customer, we are the product.
@odd Early and even late Twitter was so much better from what "journalists" do on "social media" now.
Back on, I felt like they did provide a service. They cited their own articles, but adversarially to the publications they worked for - poking through the clickbait and bullshit headlines, telling the stories of what they cared about, how they researched the story, etc. that they weren't allowed to do in the actual publication.
Now, all they do is act as mouthpieces for the companies they work for. 🤮
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Old journalist here. Early Twitter was really good for getting those two-way exchanges that made your reporting stronger. But that didn't last, and being in those spaces became increasingly caustic. I quit FB in 2018 and Twitter in 2021.
But even in the beginning of for-profit social media, you could feel the shift as a journalist--we were unpaid workers for all those walled gardens.
But the problem is, loads of people get their "news" on social media. Journalism is community work, and really good, independent journalism is part of the resistance. But when your community is there looking for news on the for-profit socials, it's a huge problem. Mastodon is one of the few places where people have a little more understanding of this framework and have taken some affirmative steps toward fixing it.
Perhaps it needs to be said: very few people get into journalism because it pays well. I was never paid very much. Most of us believe in the importance of this community work.
Thousands of journalists have been laid off in the past two decades. No one came to help us. But no one working in the business was surprised. The old business model doesn't work anymore. Those remaining know that. Chasing clicks is just the last few drowning men grasping at straws.
@phwolfe @odd Thanks for doing that work, fam. I know how thankless it is.
It’s funny (not funny ha ha, but funny cry emoji) that the “nobody wants to pay for news but also they all demand it be accessible on Facebook” thing was called out in Elements of Journalism way back in 2014! Way, way before I got into the profession. The layoffs were also a problem then. And it’s only gotten worse.
I dunno how to fix this. But I’m damn sure becoming Instagram won’t do it.
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I'm putting my time in with our local community radio station and a nonprofit journalism collaborative that seems to be getting momentum. And a little bit of my money goes every month to ProPublica.
@odd it never was a two way anything. It was just a bunch of wanna be celebrities trying to pull an emotional vampire routine 140 characters at a time.
@odd There's definitely situations like that here now. Really nice, respectful fruitful discussions.
@odd in my experience: Basically after trying to interact with various journalists on Twitter, you'd know which ones were there to actually participate in a public discussions, which ones would only reply to their "mutuals" while scoffing at everyone else, and which ones only posted to self-promote and didnt engage at all. @Haste
I'm imagining a whole lot of reasons why you could expect better turnaround from social media posts, even if you treat it just like a feed and never reply to anything. Primarily engagement--like my blog probably won't get any attention not only because it sucks but also because there's no way to engage with it. Until I fix that I'm probably wasting time.
I can add comments to my site but that's going to be a new service they have to join or I'm enabling social media commentary.
Precisely why I eschew accounts with many followers but few followed. If I want news, I will read it elsewhere. Exchange of ideas not lectures is what I am after.
I guess to talk about it with other folks. But then again how often do I do that with articles I read. it just feels like personal isolated self development. Where do you go from there when you read an article?
Oo, interesting.
… I want to talk through stuff with people i reasonably trust, with enough variety to have many opinions, with some social norms so disagreements don’t spiral.
That’s both a LOT and something we’ve been doing since language, yesno? I’ve decided that online groups are “easy come easy go” by nature.
I’m still on some old timey forums for specific interests, with more or less “just friends” structure stuck onto them. More blew up. Moderation is hard.
@clew @OliviaVespera I miss phpbb forums 😭 Im always thinking about starting one again but I’m not sure if it would see any use.
Is it that the internet is a different beast, or that my imagination has become limited?
@OliviaVespera @clew I’ve been considering them! Ultimately I don’t think the tool is the thing I’m worried about— it’s more that I’m unsure if I’d be able to build a community with forum software in the year 2026.
it’s so much easier for them to negotiate a deal with a central owner of non-federated social media to artificially force their posts into your view.
That doesn’t work here if there is an instance devoted to fire and forget with no community participation I’d personally block it at the instance level.
It’s amazing to me that corporations have positions for social media posters but not necessarily participatory users. It’s all about an initial hook, click and view counts.
I don’t care who sees my posts here some are just into the void. I can be as weird as I want to be. Also I have no relatives that call when I post ambiguous song lyrics worried about my mental health.
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good social media is RSS with boosts and replies. I primarily want to follow lots of people who will then surface the best articles so I don't have to subscribe to everyone's RSS feed. and see some discussion.
Back on , I felt like they did provide a service. They cited their own articles, but adversarially to the publications they worked for - poking through the clickbait and bullshit headlines, telling the stories of what they cared about, how they researched the story, etc. that they weren't allowed to do in the actual publication.
Now, all they do is act as mouthpieces for the companies they work for. 🤮
I've run into a small handful of reporters and journalists who've done that, along with a few other content creators who... don't really engage with folks but are here to just drop self-promo and that's that.
I don't really mind certain kinds of self-promo (e.g., "I wrote a thing!" or "I made a thing!"), especially when it's nested within genuine interaction or other interesting posts (even if it's shitposting with another person). I love seeing people drop their art (whatever it is) or writing, and it's given me a lot of cool and new perspectives I haven't otherwise found.
But I think if more journalists and reporters actually engaged with people, it might alleviate (not solve) the issue of how a bunch of 'em forgot who they claim they write for and inform. It might even get a few to stop doing disinformation or strong one-sided perspectives of news stories (e.g., when all of their info for a story comes primarily from cops or corporate mouthpieces without further looking into it).
makes a lot of sense! And I think this is a good place for reporters too, but not reporters as *reporters* but reporters as *people* if you know what I mean. Just the same way people from any other profession is welcome
Leave the promotion behind on the other places where it (as fate would have it belongs) and come here when you want to engage with people
and well idk but I guess engaging with people probably helps you be a better journalist/reporter too?
@badri it does. And it’s depressing how far you can apparently get in the field while considering yourself “separate” from the public. :/
this is neither an AD platform nor a platform for one way communication to build an audience which is just consuming.
Hence it's uninteresting for 90% of journalist making a living in corporate media.
Let's keep it that way.
Everybody else who wants real connection and two way conversation is welcome, though.
@rhold I will say I’ve noticed an uptick in… not ads, exactly, but buttoned up branded “content” in the popular feed on .social.
I’m curious how long the “no brands” vibe will last.
Some days it’s like… Proton product announcement followed by Tuta product announcement followed by Open Office product announcement. It’s not overwhelming yet but it rhymes with social media as I’ve experienced it elsewhere. Makes me a little nervous.
we will see.
I have nothing against artits, local and comminity based or open sources biz tooting their horn here. But aggressive captilastic consumerism produchts probably won't find buisness here. But true: as long as we are niche it's easy to remain pure.
@rhold oh I hadn’t even thought to include artists in that observation. I’d be delighted to have a feed full of artists promoting their stuff. 🤩
@rhold those semi commercial FOSS brands (along with some of their devs) have been present on Fedi for years (you can add Nextcloud to the mix as well).
I'm occasionally mildly annoyed by the way some of these brand accounts never seem to reply to anyone and they often go quiet if folk point out bugs/issues in their replies, but they seem to have got better in that respect and at least its software/services that folk on here tend to actually use..
@vfrmedia @rhold yeah so I’m actually pretty happy to see FOSS tools here, so I look the other way for things like Open Office. I want them to be successful.
I have however noticed that same tendency with adjacent brands (specifically Firefox) to not engage with the community, especially when the question is critical.
(I do agree that this is not really a convenient place to submit but reports, it would create confusion for engineers, so I’m leaving that alone)
@rhold in some cases (particularly on Fedi) its not as much full bug reports (as folk know not to do that, or have already checked issue lists), but queries about the project which never get a response (not even a post to a link on the projects official website).
Or the same marketing post is cut and pasted to everywhere (Fedi, Bluesky, Threads etc) without any plans to engage with anyone..
Also as Fedi attracts more non-techie folk (as it is slowly doing), some might at least need some gentle encouragement to point them to where issues lists and forums are for the software they are using.
@rhold there were few lists generated, with consenting accounts, grouped by topic, types of hobby, also science, journalism etc. I wonder if some of them are still alive. There even was server made specifically for indie artists to promote their shops.
@madargon @rhold I followed a lot of those kinds of accounts, from journalist lists, when I made my account in 2021 or 2022. Most of the ones I followed were abandoned within the year, which was a bummer, but there are new folks here worth following.
Propublica and 404 Media have an official presence on Fedi, for example!
@rhold Since mastodon just shows you people who you follow, I don’t really see how corpos could even gain a foothold. I mean, I’d probably follow a company that posts news or changelogs or security notices but there’s already other channels for that.
Twitter is so full of bots. Surely a journalist would prefer actual humans interacting with their material? I’ve heard a lot of journalists say they might not get the number of likes they are accustomed to, but they receive more quality engagement on Mastodon. Unless they are only on social media to get numbers that will impress their bosses?
How are you defining journalists? For me a journalist is someone like @briankrebs Not many around anymore, I gave up on NPR over a decade ago because quality and depth were gone, despite them still retaining some real journalists, they weren't allowed to work as such. I suspect Brian has much deeper understanding and insights into the issue than myself with his background and expertise.
@CliffsEsport @briankrebs Well Krebs is literally an investigative journalist so I confess I’m not 100% sure the distinction you’re making. (Incidentally I read his work and enjoy it immensely)
@briankrebs my point was many so called journalist now don't meet my definition. Wasn't clear to me how you defined it, as in anyone working for online or print company doing articles? I really don't know of any big orgs that really meet my personal criteria anymore. BBC is only one I follow via RSS anymore and even there small podcasts/youtubes are often faster and higher quality. And I was trying to make clear I think they are out there just no jobs for them at big orgs anymore.
@CliffsEsport @briankrebs That’s true. The layoffs have been unreal. Folks are probably not too picky about employment right now.
@CliffsEsport Yeah, back when I first started in journalism in the 90s, the major publications all had real experts who were assigned to or carved out specific beats like aviation, cars, healthcare, education, the environment, the courts, etc. These were largely well educated people who knew these awfully complex subjects intimately and could explain them simply but fairly to anyone. To the extent they want any reporters to write about these specific subjects anymore, newsrooms tend to favor young (cheap, replaceable) general assignment folks who lack that institutional knowledge.
good point
I think it's a question of aligned incentives. A lot of journalism has to drive eyeballs to advertisers to stay in business. And they use the same ad networks with the same engagement metrics as corporate social media, which also has to drive eyeballs to advertisements through their algorithms. So the strategy that boosts engagement one place will boost it everywhere. Then these folks try to play that same game here on Mastodon...and it doesn't work.
Fuck all of that engagement bullshit. Those parasites should stay hell away from here. I don’t miss them. I don’t want them. Anything even remotely like that shit that was on commercial social media I block with extreme prejudice.
@oberstenzian and if you look at the average news site, it's filled with trackers (hint - there's no such thing as an "essential cookie") and clickbait ads.
Block JavaScript and most paywalls stop blocking you. The ones that use JavaScript to insert story contenf, you can find alternatives elsewhere.
Dunno, I kinda feel like it is a chicken/egg issue here. The nice thing about Twitter was that everyone was there. Once it fell people moved, but no a lot moved here.
So journalists (well everyone) need to post in more places and likely want to optimize for eyes seeing their stuff. Maybe it's just me, but I just don't see as much engagement here as I do on other platforms?
Then why are WSJ, propublica, the verge, forbes, etc (crap complicit press) on #mastodon trending page without logging in?
Here for the propaganda spreading phenomenon alone or trigger bait?
Gotta believe what they tell us, nothing else, you're not to think on your own. Got it!
Hence why no uproar about the overthrow, biggest news of the century, millennium, which should be front page since billionaires made their bribes using illegal citizens united loophole.
@SCALETHEORY I’m not sure that all of those outlets you mentioned are actually on Fedi. For example, I’m pretty sure the WSJ account is just a reposting bot.
We have some journalists here. Good, serious ones. We don't need the state propaganda corp.
what this place needs is more journalists, said nobody ever. 😀
Exactly this.
Getting engagement on Mastodon is quite easy. But if you're uninterested in a dialogue and sees engagement as a zero-sum game you must win, then you're in for a rude awakening.
Thank goodness there is someone here talking about one-way communication from journos and big follower “personalities”. Extractive is exactly the right term and I hate that approach. There should be engagement and community building - especially important now IMO. Just followed you.
I think “engagement farming” is an odd term. It seems to me that many journalists are in broadcast mode, and don’t have time for conversation. My view is that Mastodon is fine for conversations (depending on your cultivation of follows) but not so great for broadcasting. I’m OK with that.
@gdinwiddie broadcasting is also a good term for it, yeah. I struggled with finding the right word and settled on engagement farming, as it seemed appropriately pejorative.
To me, engagement implies that it is bidirectional. After reading Chris Hayes’ book, The Sirens’ Call, perhaps “attention farming” might be appropriate. They want to gain the attention of people, not responses.
@gdinwiddie that’s fair, I guess the term engagement would have been coined by businesses, that would benefit from asserting their metrics are genuine interaction.
modern opinion-minded journalists should just include some form of sharing on the Fediverse. Specifically for the controversial stuff normally blocked by mainstream media/socials 😉
I'm still a newbie here, but, it seems to me that reporters, lawyers, scientists, etc find that mastodon is isolating because it's harder to be visible. The redundancy of separate instances that lead to a robust independence also leads to scattered bases with not all posts being visible to all people.
I think professionals want to find other professionals, not just grift for their own income.
@gabbywheels That’s probably also true! I mean, case in point, I’d love to follow more journalists, I just rarely run across them.
"modern news orgs use social media in purely extractive ways"
And post junk instead of doing journalism.
Murdoch has replaced some titles with AI Slop.
Translation: They want an algorithmic platform that will amplify their broadcast. Despite the lip service most reporters don't actually want to engage, they want to put a story out and broadcast it. That's why Mastodon doesn't work for so many of them.
Also they usually want some sort of measurable metric so that they can justify their existence to their boss. 10k likes on a bot laden network still looks good to people who don't get it.
Also they usually want some sort of measurable metric so that they can justify their existence to their boss. 10k likes on a bot laden network still looks good to people who don't get it.
The only factor that should guide journalists (or anyone, really) about where to post and engage is whether their intended audience is there. Period.
I'd bet that Democracy Now! doesn't post to Truth Social. When JD Couchfucker established an account on Bluesky, he became one of the most blocked accounts.
Are your peeps there? If not, don't waste your time.
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that isn't being a journalist, that is being an influencer....
they can stay on tiktok
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threads and bluesky are single monolithic platforms. masto federated. so would likely depend on which masto server someone's posting on i'd guess as a starter...also, purely anecdotally/for my own part, there's less of a culture of boosting/liking/trying to make things go viral for the algorithm. lack of apparent engagement may not signal lack of people actually reading posts/following links/etc.
Some are here, one of my faves @rachelgilmore.substack.com is here at least as automated bridge.
I find people very engaged here with politics. It’s about finding people you genuinely resonate with their content here which means you also have to be genuine. And a lot of mainstream journalists are so busy playing an access, capitalist, and propaganda game, that what they offer is of no interest to most Mastodonians who seem to want to build a post-capitalism world.
I find people very engaged here with politics. It’s about finding people you genuinely resonate with their content here which means you also have to be genuine. And a lot of mainstream journalists are so busy playing an access, capitalist, and propaganda game, that what they offer is of no interest to most Mastodonians who seem to want to build a post-capitalism world.
Spot on. Most journalists don't want to participate, they want attention and reach. Mastodon is antithetical to their needs, which is what they stay on X.
As someone who worked in a newsroom for 14 years I'll say this: good, let them stay on X. A shame, but hey.
As someone who worked in a newsroom for 14 years I'll say this: good, let them stay on X. A shame, but hey.
reporters who are just looking to increase their views will fail, the ones who bond and make connections will thrive.
Which to me, is perfectly fine. The journalists who thrive here will be the ones who keep people as their central focus, instead of vanity metrics.
I recommend people have a poke at Threads, which may the epitome of engagement farming. It’s quite something …
It simply confirms what we already know - investigative journalism as we used to know it has gone....
@pa27 There’s still Propublica, and Bellingcat.
It’s not enough but at least it isn’t zero. 😭
It’s not enough but at least it isn’t zero. 😭
True - at least those guys are still trying...
The reason twitter was so horrible (long before Elon) was that it was filled to the brim with journalists and politicians.
I was on Twitter when folks copied and wrote rt:
It worked because people put in the effort. People were engaged. The engagable people are here, the lazy ones aren't. The ones who want to be spoon fed, and that's what it seems publishing companies want.
yup. bluesky has engagement metrics and algorithms and is much more suitable for influencers and extractors. it's also why i'm not on bluesky.
and that's fine. folks that want engagement metrics can have their space. those of us that like more "social" than "media" have our place too.
"...actually talk to people" is what I like the most here. Adding to what you said, I'd say "talk to *real* people" instead of "to people" ☺️
@vladcampos I see that as only getting harder to distinguish as time goes on, but I’m not giving up 😭
I mean, why as a reporter would you have conversations?
Then you'd have to perhaps think about what was being said in those, and use this to form some kind of picture of what other people think. It might change what you write about, or how you write about it, and end up giving you a unique voice.
This seems utterly detrimental to the job description.
@jens Well, not the job description as it is perhaps meant to be (public service, community driven, for the common good). But definitely for what it has become (profit driven, massive scale, fast fashion for information)
Some of the journos that migrated to mastodon in 22 (and subsequently left) were not interested in real engagment. There was a lot of pontificating and a lot of worry about being their handles being copied and having their brand diluted. They were not interested in doing the hard work of building community.
@MiriShuli I hadn’t considered the handle-snatching anxiety at all. Maybe that does explain some of it.
TPM/Josh Marshall was very vocal about this being his problem. Nothing prevents the creation of 50 TPM handles on 50 different servers all pretending to be him or his organisation. All spewing garbage in his name.
I believe the issue is solvable but it was easier to jump to Post and BlueSky.
I really don't get the journalists thing anyway. It's literally the only style of platform that makes sense for journalism. For one thing, they can own and control their own server instead of relying on the whims of a company that may or may not manipulate their messages and reach — or worse, turn their info in to the government.
I just don't really get it. Every large business that uses social media should want to own their own server... Journalists should want to more than anyone.
This thread reminds me of defining "standard of living" as "how much stuff you own", and "worth" as "how much money you have"…
…and of rejecting those definitions, to the utter bafflement of they who won't see.
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I like things just the way they are. If this app becomes monetized I won’t be on social media.
bingo! Really appreciate the perspective. I love the news orgs and journalists that are on here, and I think they get deeper engagement, though not the kinds of metrics people are used to from Instagram/Twitter/etc
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Over the same last few days actually *Bluesky* has been having an argument about "right-wing opinions get so much negative pushback here, it's going to drive away the right-wingers and centrists". And also Twitter has been getting so concerned about "Wow this site is dead for anyone except right wingers" that even Nate Silver is kinda freaking out
…maybe this just doesn't work? Maybe social media is just never going to be the thing that it was in 2015 again, ever again?
@pfriedma I do think Bluesky has a dunk culture and it makes the site unpleasant to be on unless you're really aggressive with the "block" and "allow replies from: follows/followers only" buttons.
@mcc funny how it always comes back to the “safe space for differing viewpoints” thing, isn’t it? Which of course is code for “I think I should be able to say fascist shit and get away with it”. Smh.
I have also observed the dunk culture thing about Bluesky (which I left)! I assume because that was the language of Twitter before it.
I’m okay with not being able to re create some lightning in a bottle moment for social media. Maybe it’s not *meant* to exist in that form, or not healthy too.
@mcc
this argument makes no sense at all, look at where engagement farming is leading to in social networks
I get way more engagement here than I ever did on birdsite. And I have fewer followers here too, so the ratio of engagement per follower is higher.
I think at least part of the low engagement myth is that Mastodon adds a "nofollow" tag to links and that prevents *measuring* engagement. It doesn't show up in their spreadsheet so they think it doesn't exist.
@jef I feel like “engagement” is chasing the wrong thing anyway, right? You mentioned getting more of it here, like quantitatively, and that’s excellent, but (maybe it’s just me) I’ve also noticed the quality of conversation is higher here.
And I’d way, way rather have one person in my network that I can have an interesting discussion with, then five thousand that press like and move on.
So that seems like a great trade twice over.
I don’t want journalists farming for engagement, I want them doing research and writing fact-based articles for publication. Anything that tempts journalists away from actual journalism is bad for society.
I absolutely do not want engagement farming journalists. I think that runs entirely contrary to what good journalism should be.
weird, its almost as though the fediverse is strongly averse to monetization. I would expect this behavior if monetization had enshittified the internet, but that couldn't possible be, right? No. It has to be the fediverse that is wrong.
won’t use b/c no ownership and difficult to game the system 🤔
where the journalists go, the large scale influence psyop bot farms go
... you don't want journalists. stop listening to them they're all captured by the billionaires and the epstein class
That point there about extractive ways is dead on. They are upset they can't just click on trending hashtags and have a story written for them. Having to actually seek out interesting stories, talk directly to people, etc, is a diminishing part of journalism in the modern era and it needs to come back.
I personally use Mastodon, as well as Pixelfed, and even Friendica and Blacksky as a means for posting art, but that's just me.
The worst take I've heard so far is "Mastodon being hostile to engagement farming and AI writers is why Black Mastodon didn't last".
"in other eras some of the company’s accounting practices would have been considered “borderline fraudulent.” The board member told us, “The company levered up financially in a way that’s risky and scary right now.” (OpenAI disputes this.)"
a place to find and get to know people? however will graph go up‽
I don't even consider it "news" these days - I consider it "infotainment".
It just says that reporters are more interested in each other than in what people are discussing or know. What people are discussing and know is all here. The reporters prefer press releases, opinion polls, think tanks and surveys.
I made a similar point today, but in a full thread with a lot more swearing. Your version seems both more concise and better stated…
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@jackwilliambell sometimes swears are the right tools for the job though
There are a bunch of journalists here, but they're not Twitter-pilled enough for people to consider them "real" journalists. Reporting from war zones, doing deep, original investigations, or advocating for anything at all doesn't count.
@quizzicus You’re preaching to the choir here, as a “not real” journalist. Lol
My estimation of fedi is it’s a good place to find community, and a bad place to find an audience. You have to actually interact with people to get traction here. That’s a feature, not a bug.
I think it's not really about journalists, but about people who felt they were famous, and here they suddenly are not. So they perceive it as a problem that the platform is ill suited for pumping one's celebrity status. It's not enough for them to just talk to people, as you say. They would like to talk *onto* people and expect the platform to amplify that.
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@isagalaev ooh, I like this take. :O this is probably how I’ll think about it from now on.
Earlier today I saw a series of posts where someone had old software on diskettes from cleaning a house, asked if there would be someone interested in preserving them, and got connected to the precise person to do that.
That's the sort of engagement I'm here for. It was lovely.
That's the sort of engagement I'm here for. It was lovely.
@fskornia now that is the Fedi experience. I follow one user whose special interest is apparently ants— I do not particularly care about ants but it brings me joy when someone else loves something, so I’ll seek it out anyway.
there are probably a lot more journalists than I realize on here, but I'm in my little happy place being silly and talking about crafts and being a swamp weirdo and I just know them as my fellow gremlins. I don't know if it's entirely comparable, but I have bought lots of art, books, games, etc from folks I know here, it's not influencer status that matters, it's being part of a community and being a person. Those people actually pay attention and care. It means something.
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well put.
the way I see it, it is not even about "journalism" it is about the for profit model that journalism is subordinate to.
for profit agendas belong in a a for profit ecosystem. the corporate owned social media gaggle that enables its agenda.
for profit agendas in a for people environment fail. and they know it. so they call our for people environment "hostile" because to their minced up viewpoint it is hostile.
the people talking of courting them are just being silly.
Isn't that really the point of the Fediverse, and should be for anything that calls itself "social media"; connecting real people to form relationships while avoiding the commercial crap?
I'd boost this more than once if I could. Capitalism says everything must make money or it's useless. I'm not here to make money. I'm here to find like minds, listen to them, and talk to them.
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It's too bad more journalists don't seem to feel the same way. There used to be a lot more of them over here.
Those news organisations don't use social media but adtech, which could be called quasi-social media at best.
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I’ll say what we’re all thinking: the FIFA Peace Prize will never be taken seriously now.
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Actually I'm proposing a drinking game for every time I see that "What's Going On With Shipping" host do an impersonation of the FIFA Peace Prize trophy
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though i think it would be absolutely peak irony and hypocrisy if FIFA took it away. not to mention, a miracle.
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Honestly FIFA losing faith and sponsorships will be among the positives that come out of this.
next theyll give it posthumously to hitler, lucky luciano, m7ssolini and al capone ...
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Did you know FIFA has an ethics committee? 😅
Should they change their name to FAFO?
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and archives
@Stoori are archives distinct from libraries?
And please leave them bereft of AI
Well said and so true
you forgot the Pentium 4 Sauna /hj
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hopefully the white supremacy house is collateral destructed!
I was a self employed web developer for 8 years after working as a science buyer for an academic bookseller, and I support this message.
"I've got mouths to feed" - Melvil Dewey
And old people. When all else fails old folk still remember things. Oral history is incredibly sturdy, but only if you take the time to listen to it.
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This one takes the cake.🤷
Seems like a new scam is AI companies making infringement claims against the musicians they scraped for sounding like themselves.
Turns out it works because the claims are adjudicated by, you guessed it, AI agents.
"Because YouTube’s copyright claim system operates without individual human review of each dispute, Campbell’s channel was effectively handed over [to the AI company.]"
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Une boite d'#IA clone la voix de Murphy Campbell, une chanteuse folk américaine, à son insu, bien entendu.
La chanteuse a vu ses propres vidéos démonétisée car elle s'est faite striker par #youtube pour infraction au copyright suite à une réclamation de droits par la boîte qui a cloné sa voix.rudevulture.com/ai-company-clo…
AI Company Clones Musician’s Voice, Then Copyright-Strikes Her Own Songs
Folk musician Murphy Campbell found herself at the center of a major ordeal when an entity called Timeless Sounds IR uploaded AI-generated imitations of her music to every major music platform, then used her recordings to strip her of her own income.Oswin Vex (Rude Vulture)
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THE MACHINES ARE GANGING UP ON THE BIOLOGICALS!
YOU ALL LAUGHED AT ME!
I TRIED TO WARN YOU!!!!
YOU ALL LAUGHED AT ME!
I TRIED TO WARN YOU!!!!
Time for Afroman's approach, and some Lemon Pound Cake!
Which is to say, publish a few catchy songs that go after the AI company, tell her story, drop an occasional f-bomb. Let them "own" those.
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I blame Saul Zaentz. Any attempt to legally steal an artists' work, he was the start of it.
But also, #FuckAI.
@briankrebs Automated theft by corporates. Joy.
Oh there is also a italian company that stole like footage from Nvidia (AI footage) put it in their own video, and then coyright striked people sharing the nvidia clip, and nvidia themselves, and they managed to get Youtube to take th e nvidia video down.
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thanks, I'm now the 24st fan of Murphy Campbell on deezer...
We are so f*cked
We need jail time for copyright scams.
I hereby renew my request to the Unicode committee for a new emoji much needed for these times, something that roughly translates to 🤦♂️❌💯
See, that's the problem:
- #LackOfAccountability & #LackOfConsequences!
- False #DMCA strikes do not incur any actual actual #penalty.
- #FalseClaims do not get said claimant banned from claiming if not jailed.
Shit like this is why #Copyright is intrinsically linked to #Authorship (in any decent juristiction) and only humans can legally create copyrightable works!
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This is nightmarish.
We need a separate internet.
"That fabricated music was then distributed across platforms using a company called Vydia. Vydia then proceeded to file copyright claims against the original source videos on Campbell’s own YouTube channel " #NameAndShame
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The entire copyright system built over the last several decades is inherently oppressive and extractive, assuming guilt and requiring people to challenge an prove their innocence. As someone who is most likely to post my own students and ensembles playing I get copy strikes all the time and have for years, on public domain works because the system is built around the premise that the first person to register a performance own the work.
ai is the biggest thief and scam on the planet
see also buttondown.com/creativegood/ar…
Good news in the fight against Big Tech
I’ve been thinking about what’s at stake, and what we can lose, if the tech monopolies aren’t stopped. For example: Silicon Valley apps like Uber Eats and...Mark Hurst (Creative Good)
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AI generated works cannot be copyrighted because copyright is for human beings only. Both the AI music label and YouTube should be held liable for fraud.
The people at these AI companies have names and addresses.
Reminds me of the problems that Edwyn Collins had many years ago, pre-"AI." Of course, this time around it's much more deliberate and mechanised. What a timeline!
Time for a theft of intellectual property lawsuit. I hope she copyrighted all of her material.
I'd *love* to see the judges face when this lawsuit lands.
meanwhile holly herndon and holly plus
tellement gros que j'ai peine à y croire. On a des sources plus crédibles qu'un fil Twitter?
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Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
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Six reasons Mastodon won't survive
The hot new thing in social media has some big problems.Lance Ulanoff (Mashable)
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I blogged about that last year:
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To his credit, Lance Ulanoff admitted then he was wrong about fedi:
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It's been eight years to the day since Lance Ulanoff, the storied Tech and Social Media Expert and an award-winning tech journalist, decided that Mastodon won't survive because William Shatner couldn't find him on here.Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (Mastodon 🐘)
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Today more time has passed since the Mastodon Won't Survive piece got published than there is left until the AI bubble pops. 
Feeling old yet? 
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what if Mastodon didn't survive and this is all limbo?
@argv_minus_one cause it's limbo, not heaven
it has shrunk a lot which i am sad about, but what people need to remember is that foss shit never goes away, even when you want it to 😂
@quinn I don't think growth for growth's sake is the way to go, and while it does provide *a* signal, it is not *the* signal so to speak.
I fully expect Bluesky to start enshittifying, because of course they will with their cryptocurrency bro overlords looking for payout eventually.
Meanwhile fedi is doing its thing, getting more resilient, easier to join, dealing with some long-term issues around moderation and so on. And will be there, better prepared than ever, for the next wave.
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@quinn what do you mean by payback eventually?
They will want it now if not yesterday!
They will want it now if not yesterday!
not many of my non geeky friends are here, and none of the communities I am trying to reach out to 😔
there's a lot of good people saying important things on Twitter still, too. People I respect and people I care about. Network effects are crucial.
@quinn sure. and it's to some extent on us to create the network effects we want to see in the world.
@quinn Diaspora* is proof positive of that. I log in like once every 3 years at this point and it's all still there.
I'm interested to hear your perception that fedi is shrinking, I don't share it (despite knowing that "Mastodon" MAUs - however they're tracked - are down from peak) but I also think I have a sort of bottom-up approach to finding ppl to follow after being here almost 10 years and also being distrustful of Firstname Lastname clearly-has-a-mortgage accounts who post Takes.
@quinn (and to be clear I'm not saying such users are your main circle, but I'm guessing you might engage with them more than I do and I'm also guessing that those might account for a lot of the shrinkage.)
@deutrino I literally have no idea what that is. 🤷
@quinn it's one of the old-skool FOSS social networks which just won't die, been persisting for 15 years now with a few thousand users
@deutrino @quinn yeah. I used to be pretty active there, years and years ago.
The sad thing is Diaspora* used to be the biggest of the FLOSS federated social networks, and they kinda acted up because of this. Never properly documented their protocol, I believe, and were definitely not interested in implementing any other protocol.
It's a sad irony that at some point Mastodon and broader ActivityPub-verse grew way larger than they've ever been and now they're kinda in a pickle.
*casually reading '8 years ago', not really believing it, looking at the calendar and groaning*
🥹🥹 yeah I miss the old days even tho I am around 20s I can feel back pain ehehe 😅😅
I’m feeling somewhat motivated to make the 10th anniversary a party.
@marcink yeah, something fun needs to happen for sure!
That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even twitter may died. 
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#VivaMastodon 💪 😁
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Hopefully he's learned a bit more than that because WOW!
I honestly thought AI wrote it and hallucinated the whole time. Something trained on rage bait from middle schoolers. Wasn't a coherent argument in it anywhere.
"The logo is cute, but the service right now stinks almost as badly as a thawing woolly mammoth."
Even if mastodon had face planted, this article wouldn't be relevant to anyone but the guy who wrote it...and maybe Shatner because it's got him in it.
that's a masterclass in passive-aggression, Michal. Well played!
At least he's a good sport about it.
Ulanoff got stuck and can NOT evolve past his scant understanding of the "internet", beyond Web2.0
He never had a single tech opinion that was not handed to him, with a check, by some corporate PR douchebag.
Always consider your sources.
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2 Problems and the #answer below:
1/ The weakness is in people / their learning curve / energy + tolerance needed to figure it out. Iit's always going be the problem / challenge initially.
2/ Sometimes just better to install a new operating system / app + account FOR grandma etc *instead of understanding the install *
Allowing " #dualboot " (both commercial and #FOSS version to play around / migrate instead of just one or the other which probably good for learning curve.
The #ANSWER: (Continuing post... )
People need more active help on #Mastodon (a #helpdesk)
Not having help limits adoption.
Without commercial partners (for the good) etc it's less / not as actively good / not as practical.
Only for #techies obviously / mostly...
We need a constant team or #helpline to be like the #commercial teams (and #convert people to the good *more actively / personally*.
(E.G.) The addressing or people of same names etc is not easy.
oh I’ve been here for nine years? Damn time flies.
6 reasons:
1. dumb name
2. i dont get what federated means
3. dumb name
4. i dont know how handles work
5. valid concern
6. valid concern
33.3% grade
The apps one is kinda strange though. Half of it's kinda valid ("no one knows how many instances there are and there's no list"), but just the fact that there's more apps than the official one? That's just weird (and deliberately forgetting the plethora of twitter apps there used to be before they shut that possibility down).
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I had 3 different mobile Twitter apps in the Before Times, not counting the (very bad and totally overrated) official app.
Can't even remember the names of them now.
I had 3 different mobile Twitter apps in the Before Times, not counting the (very bad and totally overrated) official app.
Can't even remember the names of them now.
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Alternate Twitter apps were so popular Twitter had to close off their API just to get people onto the official one.
Alternate Twitter apps were so popular Twitter had to close off their API just to get people onto the official one.
Why would I *need* a list of all the instances?
Yes, listing them is largely impossible. Most of them are probably single-user servers in somebody's homelab. But so what? I'm not the Federation Police.
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@revengeday I will say he admitted he was wrong, here on fed, last year under my thread about it:
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@rysiek@mstdn.social I love being proven wrong. I mean, this is no Bluesky, but it seems to be making out just fine. 😁LanceUlanoff (Mastodon)
Oh lol, respect+ 
"This is no BlueSky"
Said like it's a bad thing to not be scraping everything for ai, or to be beholden to crypto bros.
@revengeday
@xinit @revengeday his comment is a year old, when bluesky's nefarious pivot was signposted, but less clear.
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Almost funny how years later Mastodon is alive and well, while anything else on the web is increasingly drowning in slop.
reading this article gave me a brain aneurysm
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best in this article is the missing tweet from twitter.com
@sturmsucht yes, this is truly what brings it up a notch, from great to glorious.
@sturmsucht
Excellent alt text!
Excellent alt text!
To be fair, there are plenty of missing toots on Mastodon, too.
The other day, on a whim, I decided to go through my Mastodon archive, pick some random toots I boosted once upon a time, and view them again. Many of them were 404.
Probably because a fair number of people here use the auto-delete feature.
Nothing on social media---any social media—is permanent. Not unless you save a copy of it on your own computer (and have good backups of said computer).
John Mastodon brought me a rumpled paper bag full of chocolate-style ovoids! He also ate all the leftovers in my fridge and rifled through my closets, but you take the good, you take the bad.
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I was going to say «I would not read it, but I didn't... sorry, I just read the headers XD XD and noooow, I will retut it
@cibersheep @revengeday tha old ways are often the best
lol. Didn't have to read beyond "I signed up primarily to protect my name."
Yeah, uhm. Good to be here. Not missing those people.
Yeah, uhm. Good to be here. Not missing those people.
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@nblr
I've seen people say that about BS accounts. Just signing up to protect my brand! Like copycat accounts are concerned about accuracy in account impersonations. They'll let some celeb have their real "protected" account of @johnsmith on BS and just use @johrsrn1th to ask people for iTunes gift cards.
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I'm laughing WAY more than I should 🤣
@DJGummikuh William Shatner couldn't find me on Mastodon either. I'd post a link to the tweet, and it's been deleted 😉
Obviously this looks painfully ridiculous reading it from the year 2026, but even back then he was laying it on a bit too thick, like he wanted it to fail 😡.
We of course know it will live forever...
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"There is nothing intrinsically wonderful about Mastodon aside from the fact that it's not Twitter." - there is lack of understanding in that statement from the article. Like completely missing the point. But hey ho, we're here on this dead platform after many years
How is the Metaverse going, anyway?
Mastodon has outlived the Metaverse, bitcoin usefulness, NFTs...
Google+. Fedi has already been around several years longer than all of Google+.
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@chrisp
Unfashionable take, but I really liked G+ (in the early days, before the mandatory YouTube disaster).
I got in as part of the first wave of general public users, courtesy of an invite from a friend who worked for Google.
Woz was on it, and I found a lot of interesting music there (that wasn't being pushed anywhere else).
It (unsurprisingly) went to shit after they added the mandatory requirement to have a G+ account to add comments on YouTube videos.
@dec23k why unfashionable? I never used it, but that doesn't mean it was bad. That was years before all the really toxic social media stuff started happening. No shade if you liked it.
The point I was making is that this here tiny little fedi has way more staying power than a social network with over a hundred million users at the time, pushed hard by one of the biggest tech companies in the world.
That, to me, is the superpower of decentralized services.
@chrisp
By "unfashionable take", I just meant that it's been common to see people quickly default to criticising G+, whether they used it or not.
By "unfashionable take", I just meant that it's been common to see people quickly default to criticising G+, whether they used it or not.
I was not anti-google back then and I wanted Google+ to thrive. Technically, it was pretty good for the time, but not many people joined. It couldn't overcome the network effect other platforms had achieved.
I'm glad of it now. I shudder to think of Google being dominant in the social media sphere today.
@chrisp I already soft quit Mastodon once and came back, seems pretty stable.
Mastodon having a bit of a learning curve is one of the best things about it IMO.
Much like the Internet before AOL and the masses having easy access, and we all saw how that went.
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What "reporter" uses words like this in a tech article
I think they had the feeling they where on Twitter still
Clowns! 🤡
@stux
Sounds like the writer has a toot-ache.
Sounds like the writer has a toot-ache.
YES! Bumblebees can't fly 🤣 🤣 🤣
He was right. It did die
@CoolerPseudonym nope!
you appear to have depression. bye!
"William Shatner couldn't find me on Mastodon. This was a problem." oh is it
@RoyHorace @mxchara
I think its George Takei's social media team rather than him directly, but one thing I've noticed since 2017 is whilst I was initially one of the oldest on my Fedi group, now there are *many* folk on Fedi easily old enough to be my parents (and I'm 54!) and a lot who aren't from tech backgrounds, which shows the network has become accessible and usable for older people..
I think its George Takei's social media team rather than him directly, but one thing I've noticed since 2017 is whilst I was initially one of the oldest on my Fedi group, now there are *many* folk on Fedi easily old enough to be my parents (and I'm 54!) and a lot who aren't from tech backgrounds, which shows the network has become accessible and usable for older people..
@vfrmedia @RoyHorace @mxchara
I suppose that includes me.
I'm 71 and although I have worked extensively with computers during my career, IT was never part of my core job.
I do have a very early paper published where I'm a joint author on the development of an HTML 'database' which I'm proud to say has now morphed into a fully maintained international web resource.
Does that make me techie? 🤔😁
@MikeFromLFE @RoyHorace @mxchara
I think you have tech-related interests and hobbies, but what you put together tends to be considered "shadow IT" in the industry (even though its now more widely used).
I suspect a lot of those aged 50-70+ do now have greater tech skills than younger generations as they *had* to learn a bit more about how the computer works (such as file and directory structures) and until 1990s computers with GUI weren't that commonplace..
@vfrmedia @MikeFromLFE @RoyHorace @mxchara "Moonshine IT" or "feral IT" are terms for shadow IT that's used here. A former colleague did his later-in-life PhD on it, and I was one of his case studies. doi.org/10.25907/00258
the thing is fedi is just not comparable to twitter, no wonder one loses when held to the standards of the other
you go to one social or the other for different reasons, I believe fedi excels at less but better connections and conversations, while twitter is the instant winner when it comes to keeping up to date with higher profile people (non-indie music artists and such) or generally what's hot on the internet at a given time
I am not considering twitter's ideological issues here cause they're a recent problem that's not intrinsic to the platform I feel
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extra funny part the embedded tweet that doesn't load with:
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"This Tweet is currently unavailable. It might be loading or has been removed. "
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I love Mastodon, but the term "toot" is still ridiculous and reminds me of farting. I had wished "verse" (as in Metaverse) was the choice for posting something, and if someone reposts it, it would be a re-verse. Which would have been a clever word trick
@dhinojosa the term "toot" is only dirty for a tiny minority of users of the English language. So, 🤷♀️
John Mastodon has risen!
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I wasn't aware there was a specific day to celebrate.
it was fortold that the troglodyte Lance Ulanoff would emerge from his rock and proclaim that mastodon was not his friend then go back under his rock while shaking his fist at the clouds in the sky. And so it was
I remember well using it in it's beginnings. But I gave up because I could only find tech nerds at that time instead of Gene Roddenberry. 😉🤣😂🤣 When I came back years later, the audience fortunately had widened. We now have even Star Trek embroidery! mastodon.art/@inarticulatequil…
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Attached: 1 image Happy First Contact Day! I know I’m crossing the streams, but I finished the Captain Picard Day #CrossStitch last night so that’s what I’m posting in celebration.InarticulateQuilter (Mastodon.ART)
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that scrub, what a fuckwit. I am glad that saying toots literally hurt him. may he keep saying it. on twitter. where he belongs.
@falcennial
I think we should all celebrate by tooting "Toot!" at his mastodon.social account.
I think we should all celebrate by tooting "Toot!" at his mastodon.social account.
@EdCates @falcennial no need for dogpiling, we're better than that.
*sigh* IIIII knowwww...but it's funny to think.
it sure has failed as an experiment!
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"Reports of my death are greatly exaggerated"
- Fediverse
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Glad he took being wrong in good spirits but man, this article is super obnoxious. And NGL, I will never lose sleep over William Shatner not being able to find me on mastodon. Now if it were maybe Chris Pine...
What a terrible article. It doesn't even give credit to John Mastodon for creating this site in the first place!
@bodhipaksa John Mastodon sadly had to wait over five more years to get proper credit. A disgrace, truly.
„Unless someone buys the code off Rochko today and consolidates this mess ASAP, it can't survive.“
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Welp, he was wrong about Mastodon fizzling out in two weeks, but the one thing he wasn't wrong about was Mastodon growing stagnant. Mastodon's sat at the same active user counts for a while and it's plateau'd. The platform hasn't seen any significant growth since the 2022 Twitter exodus, and though growth obviously isn't everything, Mastodon remains relatively niche.
Still, funny reading about this dude just having a massive skill-issue with using Mastodon.
Counterpoint: that article is over three years old and was written not long after the Twitter exodus. That doesn't counter my point that the platform has plateau'd in terms of active users:
fediverse.observer/stats&month…
Estimates range from ~750k - 1m monthly active users, and I know it's been sitting at that for a while because I occasionally check in with FediDB. Monthly active users has been coasting around 1.1m - 1.2m for over a year now. Mastodon Analytics show that the monthly active user count is currently coasting downwards when zoomed all the way out:
Server counts have also been decreasing.
@Eeveecraft the point that piece is making is: such numbers do not mean "stagnation".
Mastodon (the project) has overhauled it's management structure at long last and for the better, implemented a lot of functionalities people have been asking for years for (quote-toots, grouped notifications, many others).
Fediverse (the community) understands itself better, has done a lot of work around becoming a more friendly place for newcomers – and that work continues.
Fedi is anything but stagnant.
If you interpret the word, "Stagnant," like that, sure, but that's not what I mean by stagnant, and I thought that was pretty clear with the arguments and links I provided.
I mean stagnant in terms of growth, and I am talking about Mastodon specifically, we're not talking about the Fediverse in general. Where did I mention the Fediverse as a whole and not Mastodon?
@Eeveecraft fair enough. Mastodon is often a stand-in for fedi, hence me interpreting it that way.
@Eeveecraft He might be right in terms of what happens (I'll take your word for it) but to me, that's not a negative thing.
Personally I find that growth almost always happens at the expense of people already at the platform or who are customers because growth focuses on everyone who is not there and not to those who are.
@hamatti
My issue is that a platform the size of Mastodon isn't going to encourage sweeping changes to how the internet is inhabited. People keep talking about how the Fediverse is going to revolutionize things and fight back against ensh!ttification and centralization, but if the biggest platform on the Fediverse can hardly maintain 1m monthly active users after about a decade, then it's not doing its job very well at inspiring that change.
It's great that the people already inside the Fediverse are having a great time, but that's not stopping the rapid ensh!ttification of everything outside it. I don't really want the Fediverse to solely be a nerd's club because only nerds use it, that wasn't the point of it. Like, if the Fediverse is so good, why wouldn't we want to share it with more people and encourage them to adopt it and get away from algorithm/slop hell?
> My issue is that a platform the size of Mastodon isn't going to encourage sweeping changes to how the internet is inhabited.
It already has. EU institutions have official presence here, EU regulations are inspired by the interoperability and federated nature of this here social network. There are many ways to "encourage sweeping changes" without having to be the biggest kid on the social media block.
Cool, and that doesn't mean much if hardly anyone actually interacts with said EU presence because hardly anyone uses the platform in comparison to others. Also, which regulations? You mean like the rapidly sweeping age-verification laws that are actively perpetuating mass-surveillance?
you know what? I really don't care on your unrelenting negativity. This is not a conversation you're having in good faith, this is just a way for you to vent for whatever reason. No clue what hurt you, but I am not here as your personal void to pump all that into. Have a good night. Please do not @ me anymore.
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some of the criticisms seem legit and still pose challenges. And it got a pretty good boost from the birdsite imploding. But I’m glad to see it still going and slowly improving. So nice to have a non commercial social media space!
@dgodon move slow and gradually improve things.
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I am totally ok with this plan. Slow is good!
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@paninid @dgodon No, really, move slow.
I intentionally say "Move slow and fix things" as the rejection of "Move fast and break things", as opposed to the more popular "Move deliberately and fix things".Because I want, very specifically, for *slow* to be seen as a virtue. Slow gives time for people whose entire life focus isn't what we're working on to react to changes, provide feedback that change is breaking things for them, participate in consensus process moving forward.
- Terrible name
lol
"Lance Ulanoff was Chief Correspondent and Editor-at-Large of Mashable"
Ha ha ha ha ha ha...solid!
LanceUlanoff: "This profile has been hidden by the moderators of mastodon.scot."
mastodon is the level of petty I aspire to
wrzuciłem na facebooka :D widzę, że powody do narzekania są co roku podobne.
what a treat
"Mastodon cannot live on hype alone." 😂
"Mastodon cannot live on hype alone." 😂
did Lance make it? 😉
That aged well lol
Ulanoff sounds like a very self important person. Hopefully he chose to remain on X.
it's bitter sweet to see that Lance is no longer a tech writer and he's just posting bird photos on #Facebook.
@MeaningfulBits that's the life.
please don't open that article, they'll see an uptick in traffic coming from Mastodon, which won't survive
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@donelias i didn't know mashable was still around, has anyone figured out what it is for?
@i_give_u_worms @donelias not sure really, could not find William Shatner on Mashable myself.
There were three men come out of the West
Their fortunes for to try.
And these three men made a solemn vow.
John Mastodon must die.
Their fortunes for to try.
And these three men made a solemn vow.
John Mastodon must die.
to me there is fundamental flaws in his arguments and to anyone trying to mock him.
On one hand the chief complaint of Mastodon for him and for many is also its biggest feature. By its very nature Mastodon has no reason to ever “die”. It has no stakeholders no profit margins no business to keep a float. If someone just one person is willing to keep a server running In their basement forever with Mastodon on it. Mastodon will live for ever.
The gist of argument in my view ? Or what I see is the argument; is that Mastodon will never outgrow Twitter or X. And I agree, it won’t. Mastodon GMBH essentially guaranteed that by killing the ability to find other servers while using their servers.
I am done caring if Mastodon grows to billions. If people don’t want to put in a little work and see something amazing. That’s their problem ! Mastodon has plenty of interesting funny people who toot everyday. And that’s more than enough for me
The article itself is douchey as I imagine the author of it Is. But I think the argument is won that Mastodon will not achieve mainstream. My argument is that doesn’t matter.
It'll never catch on. Lol.
Insightful views on Mastodon from a man who ... *reads again* ... set up an account solely to stop someone else from signing up using his name ... clearly not realizing there is no central username database for Mastodon.
Uh-huh. Great post to see in trending after coming from threads to check if mastodon gained any traction yet (it didn't)
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1 reason Mashable won't survive
It's funny that it has been and will continue to be here much longer than anyone predicted. To me, it sounds like a complaint that it's not like Twitter or Facebook, and because of that, it will die soon. So, next year and the year after that, someone could write this again and again, but then, after a decade, it will still be here with all its users.
I am happy to celebrate the ninth year of Mastodon Won't Survive. 🙂
quelle clairvoyance ! 🙃
Know-it all newbies have a Dunning-Kruger vibe to them, at least Mastodon is not a Nazi-bar!
Ah yes. Opinions on new tech and services of those who have drank the Koolaid. Gatta love the fact the article just sits there frozen in time, while the rest of the world continues to move forward. The internet truly never forgets.
I started following this Lars Ulanoff, if he's such a big cheese. Couldn't find William Shatner though.
Извините, вы заблокированы.
any fedi thing, especially mastodon will always survive because there's so many gay nerds out in the world. though, mastodon hosters are more so middle aged men who don't like meta much, i think
@inaba yeah but gay nerds are the wind beneath our wings
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Lance Ulanoff has been and always will be an idiot.
nine years later, Mastodon just made even better and #Misskey is giving Mastodon a hand.
oh yeah, I remember Mastodon. Wonder what happened to it?
@Tattie inb4 Mastodon is All Grown Up Now
A platform's success is now measured by the tech press in terms of exponential growth only. If you don't double or quadruple in size every year, you're doomed, dying or already dead. Stable isn't enough, even for things not designed to be for profit.
@Rycochet how is this our problem?
even highly trained neuroscientists have struggled to locate Shatner's Bassoon
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I think this screenshot speaks for how badly this article aged.
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the reasons aren't even the actual issues that Mastodon has, except the reality that yes, it really is harder to grow a community and find folks. But "But it's still our Twitter and when looked at in comparison to Mastodon, it looks good." I do understand he's figured out a few things since then.
Mastodon lives as long as there are at least two people on it.
Qp @rysiek i had never read it. That's wonderful
does anyone want cake? 🎂🍰
it pays to have an open mind and not jump to conclusions. I'm so happy Mastodon is what it is. It is my space and not owned by giant couldn't care less codporates. Ironic really that Mastodon has steadily grown whilst Twitter has become the cesspool that is known today as X.
honestly, there is some truth in that mastodon has way too high of a barrier to entry for the average person and absolutely didn't catch on beyond a bunch of curious linux users and developers. but we're definitely surviving and still experimenting here which is neat!
At this rate the internet itself won't survive..
Which is not a good idea for the ones making it unusable since it will be their heads rolling down the street when they realize a free and open and not slop infested internet is the only "circus" left keeping the people from burning their respective countries to the ground.
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The only thing missing here now is William Shatner.
The only thing missing here now is William Shatner.
That article is an ode to ignorance and mediocrity.
this "Mastodon" sounds pretty bad if you get stuck in a closed-off room and can't even see any other people.
Edit: although I can also see the upside.
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Oh the irony… ↴
I wish mastodon had survived, so that I could reply to this 😞
I only observe the lustra, if that's even a thing in English Latin.
LANCE IS THE EDITOR IN CHIEF FOR TECH RADAR NOW? MAN
Thanks for sharing! It's been a while since I last re-read this.
I joined Mastodon in September 2018 and this article was a significant influence on my decision to join.
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the main thing making me support right-to-repair laws is that I need to make my car’s manufacturer give me whatever horrific software is running the touchscreen so I can rewrite it
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CarPlay isn’t that bad
@schwa that’s the only software in the entire car that works right. I started the car and tried to adjust the temperature and it somehow missed the touch-up so it just kept adjusting. absurd
I'm glad to have never owned a car with a touchscreen. I'd gone car-free before that became a thing, so the last car I had had real gauges with real needles and a real radio with an actual dial. Oh, and window cranks of course.
@stevenaleach ironically I was car-free from 1981 (gave up the family ’56 VW Bug -not even a gas gage- for 40 years of public transportation) to 2020 - Tesla Model Y — which absolutely does have a screen with excellent software— everything from Dog Mode to FSD none of which exist in a car with dials or gauges, or even with CarPlay.
I am all for being car-free, but claiming that ICE cars (with dials & gages) are better than EVs is simply false
And not a claim anyone would be likely to make either, I'd expect. Seriously, I've never heard a single person ever try to claim that internal combustion was "better" in any way.
EDIT: On further thought, I'm sure those people *do* exist... but it'd be like trying to defend vacuum tubes and claiming they are somehow superior to solid state for building computers. No matter how dumb the argument, someone somewhere is probably making it.
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Ah, I have solved that one by reading the warnings about touchscreens in cars and deciding that I won't buy any such car.
There is absolutely no reason you should need an OBD2 scanner to read troublecodes on a car with a touch screen UI! You should be able to see them all right there.
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whenever something thats typically provided for free is suddenly attempted to be monetized theres always the same comments about like how its going to completley ruin everything, and then the other comments about 'we live in a soceity and under capitalism and people need money to be able to exist'. usually followed by some shit about 'overreacting'
but is it over-reacting? monetizing shit kind of is where things go to die; even if we do live in a society, paid bukkit plugins completley ruining running servers for funs? yeah pretty much actually; minecraft marketplace ruining modding? yeah kind of (atleast for bedrock) youtube having ads and algorithm chasing ruining the platform? yep definitely-
i dont think these fears are wrong, i tink they are genuinely accurate, capitalism ruins everything it touches, but then also not complying means your expected to just die on the street and we will do state violence against you if you dare try access things anyway
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@zaire i see it more as a 'how things should be' / 'how things are' type deal; and idealist view on it, and a realist view, and both are kinda correct; i dont think anyone is wrong anyone for having to charge for something in order to make ends meet, (i do if their a multi billion dollar corperation who doesn't need to do shit-) i also dont fault anyone is wrong who pirates or tries to get around that in order to access services or have needs met or whatever ..
i also dont think thats how it should be .. and fuck capitalism .. shits complicated
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I've found the people that claim overreaction are usually among the capitalists that have the most to gain. They're the ones you should be wary of.
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Capitalism is the freedom of being able to buy yourself straight up into poverty.
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don’t use either. use @openstreetmap or @CoMaps. it’s the #antifa thing to do.
I just noticed that BOTH Apple and Google have capitulated to the fever dreams of a dictator who shits himself and rapes children.
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Goddamnit. I've been using bingmaps for decades, and I just noticed it's the same there. 🤬
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@DukeDuke Stolen from elsewhere on mastodon (and obvs twitter)
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I've noticed more and more tools are defaulting to OpenStreetMap.
It's kind of awesome.
It's kind of awesome.
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Depends on where you live. My Dutch Apple Map shows both names.
Same with Google Maps - the Dutch version prefers “Golf van Mexico” and has “Golf van Amerika” in parentheses.
Mapquest still has the proper name as well
@DemocracyMattersALot In Canada, both Apple Maps and Google Maps say Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America). 🤔
Google just goes with whatever is easier for them. If they fear losing money over a name change, they'll adapt. But only for the affected market. Most other countries still have it with its real name
I use @CoMaps as well. My husband does not, and lately, the navigation has been insane. I can only guess Google Maps is experiencing a serious case of artificial "intelligence" decay. @openstreetmap @CoMaps
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🚨 LinkedIn runs a silent browser scan on every Chrome user who visits the site. 6,222 extensions. ~405 million users affected. No consent, no disclosure, no mention in their privacy policy.
The scan identifies your sales tools, VPN, ad blocker, job search extensions, and extensions tied to religion, politics, and disability.
The full technical breakdown, legal analysis, and searchable database of every scanned extension:
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Microsoft is running one of the largest corporate espionage operations in modern history. Every time any of LinkedIn’s one billion users visits linkedin.BrowserGate
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so how does #linkedin avoid prosecution?
hmmm who made a browser that allows anyone including the maker of said browser to do this in the first place, even with explicit permission of the user... surely it wasn't done on purpose.
Good that we didn't trust them with anything related to security. Only imagine they'd keep the gates of, for example, secure boot or so – unthinkable! Or that banks, health institutions, or even governments, would store sensitive data on their servers. No way!
right? RIGHT? 😱
time to delete your LinkedIn account. Overwrite your posts with gibberish first.
@dcbikeguy Super interesting! I’m inclined to think that there are probably sensible/benign motivations for this, but it still feels super gross.
yet another reason to ditch Chrome...
sales tool? when you use it on a corp computer?
I see this more as a technical issue from Chrome? Why it didn't work on Firefox? How many webs were doing that since 2017, or will do it from now on.
I was locked out a year ago for no reason (probably VPN use) and was asked to go through Persona to verify. Never. Privacy Hell squared right there. So now I can’t even delete my account! Tried all communication channels but nope… locked out. So now my albeit minimal data floats in the evil æther. #LinkedIn #BrowserGate #Privacy
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Faulting all Israelis for the many unpardonable sins of Bibi Netanyahu and his government is no different than faulting all Americans for the sins of Donald Trump and his. And I’m really getting tired of hearing such (often antisemitic) bullshit.
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Not to mention the very large numbers of Jews who don't live in Israel.
I regularly use the Trump example of the contrast between leaders and the country as whole to clarify my criticism of the Israeli government.
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The more I hear Marco Rubio talk, the more I think what a POS who sold his “Lil Marco” soul to the ghoul in the White House. Dictator Trump might make him Duke of Cuba.
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I live in Florida. I can attest to the fact that Lil Marco sold his soul long before TFG (or he never had one).
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I want to point out that there still is a way Republicans can win in November.
By now, everyone is used to Republicans suddenly reversing positions on every imaginable topic, and that is the secret to victory.
All they have to do is reverse their position on Israel.
Come out as anti-genocide and anti-Israel, and Republicans will be able to defeat all but a handful of Democrats, who will 100% continue to express their support of Israel and genocide, thus pissing off both Democratic and a surprising number of Republican voters.
Democrats have already made it very clear that they would rather lose elections than stop supporting Israel.
Poll after poll shows that Democratic voters overwhelmingly oppose genocide and are no longer buying into the little narrative the US mainstream media spent decades selling us on.
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The Republican base almost instantaneously turned anti-Bush when the shit hit the fan in the financial markets in 08. American conservatism is adaptable in that way.
Trump bulldozing the rest of the Republican primary field in 16 was a brilliant hack, which I do believe Russia played a role in, but the popular demand has to be there first. The Democratic Party is much more resistant to that type of hack of presidential primaries due to the superdelegate system, which the Republican Party lacks.
At least twice in my lifetime, the Republican Party has undergone a hostile takeover by its less moderate faction, and been strengthened by that process. As in many things, strength comes from resilience, not rigidity.
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What happened in the 2015 Republican primaries still shocks me.
Whenever you get a “First Black X” to hold a particular office in the USA, the next person to hold that office will be the white candidate who is perceived to be the most racist.
So whoever was the most racist during the Republican presidential primaries was guaranteed to win in the general election.
I get why the average white Republican voter didn't understand what was going on in the primaries, but Republican politicians are usually so sophisticated about how to use racism for political gain, and yet none of the other candidates understood that the assignment was to be as racist as possible during the primaries.
I don't know if Trump understood this. I think he just really is that racist and was being himself, but I still shake my head in wonder that none of the other Republican politicians understood what was happening.
Coordination problem. If the other Republican candidates were to draw straws or something, choose one among themselves to be the Republican alternative to Trump, MAYBE they could have stopped him. For one election cycle. Coordination problem because egos get in the way. No other plausible explanation.
Thing is, since about 2015 (the year of Gamergate or the year of Brexit, take your pick) practically every country in the world has had at least one anti-immigration party that has emerged seemingly out of nowhere and at best even established democracies are hard pressed to come up with a majority coalition of non-fascist parties. Like in the 1930s the entire world is going through a fascist phase, and it's obviously for the same reason. Working class economic prospects have become BLEAK. Waving raw meat around works.
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That would show that they did not understand what was going on.
Any of them could have defeated Trump just by being more racist than Trump, and in so doing, would have guaranteed victory in the general election.
The fact that NONE of them grasped this is shocking because Republicans are generally very sophisticated when it comes to the political use of racism to win elections.
and this is how they do the shit. "oh we back exactly what you're thinking, constituents." I'd ask if no one catches on but the answer is fucking obvious. Republican voter base doesn't care that they're being lied to. For sure they know it. they just don't want fucking anyone else in charge. that's it.
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This is also Hasan Piker's hypothesis of precisely what Tucker Carlson's cohort are up to, but you probably know that already.
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Thanks for reminding me. My life is very busy and I'm not as up on things as I would like.
Thanks for reminding me. My life is very busy and I'm not as up on things as I would like.
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Is the democratic party afraid to say 'no oligarchs' instead of 'no kings' bc so many of the donors paying their leadership and consultants are oligarchs?
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The belief that money is evil can cost people opportunities. Dog only knows how much opportunity it's cost me. Even setting aside opportunities to earn money (which of course can't be set aside entirely), you also won't get the opportunities to work as part of a team, to be challenged by projects larger than hobby scale, to be a contributor, etc., if you don't demonstrate willingness to be money motivated. At least I never found such an end run.
Likewise with politics. Moderates love to point out that victory is a prerequisite for policymaking. Money happens to be a prerequisite for winning. Everyone wants money out of politics, but nobody's in a hurry to run a zero budget campaign. That would be unilateral disarmament.
For what it's worth, I'd rather live in a constrained monarchy (such as Sweden) than an unconstrained oligarchy (such as Russia).
My main complaint with "no kings" as our most prominent slogan is that I'd prefer something more directly insulting to the political right.
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I don't see much evidence that many Americans understand how little power royalty has in a parliamentary democracy. If Trump was limited to King Charles' level of political control then I'd sleep better. Maybe that's their plan.
I was wondering who provided all that publicity for no kings, when the real protest should have been no oligarchs.
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"Is the democratic party afraid to say 'no oligarchs' instead of 'no kings' bc so many of the donors paying their leadership and consultants are oligarchs?"
Yes.
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#CongressionalRepublicans can stop this motherfucker, Trump, anytime they want to. It’s been that way since day one of his first term, but they refuse to, because they don’t want to. They aren’t frightened, they’re complicit.
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#CongressionalRepublicans can stop this motherfucker, Trump, anytime they want to. It’s been that way since day one of his first term, but they refuse to, because they don’t want to. They aren’t frightened, they’re complicit.
#DonaldTrump #AmericanHitler #CriminalCohorts #OathBreakers #AmericanTraitors #TrumpTools #Iran #IranWar
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Exactly.
Congressional Republicans have the power to stop this insanity, but are spineless weasels by choice.
They are TRAITORS and terrorists.
And every one of them needs to be dealt with accordingly.
And every one of them needs to be dealt with accordingly.
They had 2 chances to impeach and remove and didn't
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Ugh. It's been a day already and it's only 9:30am.
With a layoff at my now former company, lots of us have been impacted, including me. The good news is my calendar is now free and clear.
I have no idea what comes next but if you know of any #InternalCommunications roles in #Massachusetts, I'd really appreciate the heads up 😃
My LinkedIn is: linkedin.com/in/shartlen/.
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It pleases me that far more people have reached a point where they no longer care about establishment condemnation in their struggle against the vast injustice of the world. It is long overdue.
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Avete visto Ben Gvir festeggiare di nuovo la reintroduzione della pena di morte in Israele (che era un paese abolizionista di fatto)? Aveva distribuito dolcetti, ora avrebbe brindato al voto definitivo.
Ceto, Ben Gvir è Ben Gvir, che si presentò in parlamento con una spilletta col cappio (a proposito ve li ricordate i nostri leghisti?).
Ben Gvir ne ha di strada da fare per arrivare ad essere all'altezza di un R. Akiva. Mi spingo al punto di dire che IMHO non lo sarà mai.
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They Trump regime still thinks allies (we) don’t understand that the greatest threat to us right now is not Iran, it is the US. But we do. We already know the US can’t be trusted or counted on (see: Ukraine, Greenland, delusional maps of “Greater America”) so why on earth would any NATO country make itself a target of Iran for the US? Pure nonsense.
Everytime a US “patriot” missile is lost at sea a baby Canada goose flies around the lake.
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Low Earth orbit is now a very dangerous environment. It didn't have to be, but world governments sold off stewardship of the sky to techbros who don't care if we can actually ever leave the planet because they intend to be princes of what's left of this one.
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Today is rough in this world for so many.
Israel has voted to start exterminating Palestinian prisoners.
I refuse to CW this post.
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I'm now surprised that the Israeli Parliament has gone so far as to pass a law to kill Palestinians for killing Israeli's!
Usually no previous crimes committed by Palestinians against Israeli's was needed for mass murdering them.
Children as well.
And Trump bombed Iran for that POS Netanyahu.
There are no negotiations ongoing or in the future with Iran and if anyone believes that they are delusional.
Jensen Huang of Nvidia
Peter Thiel of Palantir
Mark Zuckerburg of Meta
Larry Ellison of Oracle
Tim Cook of Apple
Jeff Bezos of Amazon
Sundar Pichai of Google
Sam Altman of Open AI
Elon Musk of X(it)
All of these things have contributed and continue to contribute to the downfall of democracy and the murder of innocent people on this planet.
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And I do mean things. There is no humanity in any of them.
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Must organise online and irl actions to pass costs onto the above and others who can lean on Trump. Would be good to make it as effective as possible but legal and non violent.
meanwhile gamers: Haha that's just Jensen. What do you mean that's abuse?
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Understand something, the super rich will pull out all the stops they can to make sure that data centers their precious totalitarian surveillance system, gets all the energy and water and resources they need. Data center construction is probably about 10% of what headline numbers you see, but even these numbers are unrealistic as the supply chain falls apart.
Remember that billionaires are an extinction cult they want the world to fall apart
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They're also accelerationists, so they'd rather it falls apart sooner than later.
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They have every kind of moral abomination justifying their accelerationism.
Extinction cult is apt. (Taylor Lorenz's appellation for them)
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And to think, if you were to openly wish bad things on these people equal to what they do to others, there would be grounds to have your post removed.
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An authoritarian does not to rule but demonstrates who is subordinate.
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The following thought has not been fully thought-through.
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I'm Black. I love being Black. I take pride in the achievements of other Black people
But being Black is different from all my other identities: Nigerian, British, woke, F1 fan.
Being Black is not an identity I picked for myself or inherited by birth, it's one that was given to me by people who hate me (and those who look like me). I'm Black today cos 400 years ago someone wanted to enslave my ancestors.
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respect for sharing the big thoughts. gives us all a bigger perspective.
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The Trump administration's new app demands extensive hardware permissions, raising privacy concerns and sparking calls for deletion.Aiza Moraña (International Business Times)
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