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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

-All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
-‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
-‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
-biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.

privacyinternational.org/news-…

The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

Federal Register entry: govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-202…

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in reply to BrianKrebs

I feel for anyone in the travel, tourism and hospitality industries, which make up ~ 10M jobs and ~ 3 percent of the nation's GDP. From the U.S. International Trade Administration (trade.gov)

"Inbound international travel to the United States plays a vital role in the Nation’s economy and promotes cultural exchange and understanding. Travel and tourism is the largest single services export for the United States, accounting for 22 percent of the country’s services exports and 7 percent of all exports in 2023. The travel and tourism industry contributed $2.3 trillion to the U.S. economy in 2022 (2.97 percent of the country’s GDP), supporting 9.5 million jobs."

in reply to BrianKrebs

I'm British, white, male, aged 60-ish.

Prior to February 2016 I typically visited the USA 3 times a year for up to six weeks.

Since February 2016 I have visited the USA twice in a decade, for a total of 10 days.

Entering the USA as a foreigner, with a Republican POTUS in the White House, *never* felt safe, but under Trump it looks diabolically dangerous. (And to a glance I resemble "one of them": I'm not female or dark-skinned.)

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in reply to Charlie Stross

@cstross Honestly even returning from international travel as a US citizen doesn’t feel safe if you don’t check the right boxes in your personal profile. If I absolutely had to enter the US right now I’d pre-clear in somewhere like Dublin, but the whole thing feels like a crapshoot.
in reply to Charlie Stross

@cstross Living here is not a walk in the park at this point...

I'd never ask anybody to travel here now. I'm glad I'm no longer in the events-organizing part of tech -- I couldn't host anything anywhere in the U.S. if it required people to come from outside.

Not our largest problem right now, but it's a fairly nasty symptom.

in reply to BrianKrebs

The US have been fingerprinting for over twenty years. Each time I complained about it, Canadians and Americans looked at me like "what are you talking about". And no reciprocity either because Europe is a bunch of cowards.
in reply to BrianKrebs

my social media from the past 10 minutes would get me banned.
in reply to Mark Levison

we’re hoping that when you reboot your country the malware gets uninstalled. Good luck
in reply to BrianKrebs

What's scary is that the Dems have a very poor record when it comes to undoing some of the evil stuff by the Republicans (Patriot Act anyone?)

I reckon whatever happens with the next elections, this is here to stay

in reply to gotofritz

"There is no fate, but what we make."

Do-nothing members of Congress can still be booted from their sinecures.

Vote for the fighters, ditch the fascists & do-nothings.

The "both-sides" defeatist narratives are counterproductive.

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in reply to BrianKrebs

and coupled with immigration law having provisions that classify any kind of omission on an immigration, visa, or entry form as potential immigration fraud and grounds to disqualify the individual from ANY future status = anybody that forgets one email address or social media account they’ve had years ago is suddenly easily turned into an “illegal immigrant” and passed into the jurisdiction of ICE for deportation and potentially a permanent life ban from the US.
in reply to Mariya Delano

@mariyadelano being deported by ICE is the least worst option. Its the in country shootings, death camps or illegal rendition to el salvador that would not be ideal because you forgot to include your microsoft online account that was force made when you attempted to log into your laptop with a local account.
in reply to BrianKrebs

They are only forced if they continue to wanting to travel to the US.
in reply to BrianKrebs

FIFA's Word Cup tournaments in the U.S. need to be boycotted or cancelled. This puts the world at the mercy of these thugs.

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in reply to AA

@AAKL
We discussed that today – there are two other countries involved, we just have to move the US games north or south...
@AA
in reply to AA

@AAKL This could put TFGs FIFA peace prize in jeopardy
@AA
in reply to AA

@AAKL
FIFA is a corrupt bunch anyways.
So the Worldcup should be boycotted for this alone.
@AA
in reply to AA

@AAKL If the German football federation decides to either boycott the WC entirely or boycott matches in the US the rest of Europe will do the same. Mexico and Canada can handle the extra matches and tourists. FIFA can adjust quickly to cut the US out. The US matches will have low ranked teams playing in near empty stadiums.
@AA
in reply to Randall Lee

@BLTpizza That's right. The doofus who made this deal doesn't care about the implications: they are not his cross to bear. But what is the criteria that will be used? Who will be banned from entry? Who will be punished? Based on what? Gender? Immigration? Opinion? Are visitors seriously considering handing over their DNA and entire family, email, and social media history for a decade to the people who just murdered another civilian in cold blood?
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in reply to AA

@AAKL @BLTpizza
If the US doesn't want us to visit anymore, we won't visit. TV is nice for watching football.
If the US doesn't want to buy from us, we won't buy from them. Sorry, not sorry, Amazon.
It's that simple.
in reply to Curioso 🍉 🇺🇦 (jgg)

@jgg @BLTpizza Six days ago: US tourism sector faces $12.5 billion loss as visa restrictions expand traveldailymedia.com/us-touris…

The World Cup will bring in an estimated $30 billion to rescue the U.S. economy. Something to think about.

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in reply to BrianKrebs

the 2028 Olympics in LA will be fun. No visitors and no athletes from outside.
in reply to BrianKrebs

Why don't they just come out and say 'visitors to USA not welcome'?
in reply to BrianKrebs

So given you have to go through US immigration/customs even if just transiting through the US, this is also going to impact US Airlines, as who wants to turn over all that data even if just spending a few hours air side on the way to some where else?
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in reply to BrianKrebs

just cancel the Olympics and the FIFA World Cup as the next step.

I will not travel to the US in 2026 just as sure as I would not recommend time travel to Germany 1936 to a jew.

in reply to BrianKrebs

It's almost as if all that hero-worshipping of North Korea in Trump's first term of office led him to decide to close the US border and only allow the US citizens he's deporting out and Nigel Farage in.
in reply to BrianKrebs

Whose going to remember all of that anyways? Seems like an excellent way to pick out people they want to harass and claim its because they lied. Presumably they already have this data thanks to big tech
in reply to Troy

@troy
"Whose going to remember all of that anyways?"

And who is going to check/verify any of this, and how?

@Troy
in reply to gnaddrig

@gnaddrig @troy shitty AI to summarise it...incorrectly of course. All those data centres aren't just for CSAM...
in reply to Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈

@Lazarou @troy
Makes sense, facts don't matter to these people. It's not about finding out facts about anything but to show everyone who is the hammer and who the nail ..
in reply to BrianKrebs

A couple of thoughts:

1. Other countries may, and I think probably, will impose similar requirements on US people trying to enter those counties. In other words, the US would approach becoming a closed kingdom, like N. Korea.

2. Just wait until someone remembers Little Bobby Tables (image below).

3. The data will leak (or more likely, be sold.)

imgs.xkcd.com/comics/exploits_…

in reply to Karl Auerbach

@karlauerbach LOL. As I just said in the thread. They will not reciprocate. They haven't in the last 20 years

cosocial.ca/@hub/1159628334020…


The US have been fingerprinting for over twenty years. Each time I complained about it, Canadians and Americans looked at me like "what are you talking about". And no reciprocity either because Europe is a bunch of cowards.

in reply to BrianKrebs

DNA, huh?

Tell me you want to close the border without telling me you want to close the border.

in reply to BrianKrebs

I don't remember a number of those things even if I wanted to.
in reply to BrianKrebs

One more reason as a Canadian I will not be crossing the usa border
in reply to happyborg

@happyborg That would be a great mistake by usa as it would be a continent wide guerilla war. Lots of lost blood and treasure on both sides
in reply to BrianKrebs

If I was going to submit feedback it would be to enthusiastically recommend that they go ahead. The more people that are deterred from visiting the US, the better. It’ll be hard on a lot of industries and individuals, but it’ll hasten the collapse of the regime.
in reply to BrianKrebs

IMO the only sensible way to enter the US is, and has been for some months, either via parachute or landing boat. Think "Operation Overlord." @craignicol
in reply to BrianKrebs

no-one has ever gathered my PII for the purposes of giving it to an enemy government, so I'm just going to assume that anyone complying with this will be contravening the GDPR 😉
in reply to BrianKrebs

I'm glad I had the chance to visit the United States when it was still open to tourists. Too bad it's closed now.
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