General rule of thumb: Every time an organization updates their terms of service and/or privacy policy, it is never because they have your best interests at heart.
Specific thoughts on this latest Mozilla action (blog.mozilla.org/en/products/f…)
Setting aside the "worldwide license" bullshit, the privacy policy appears to have broadened both the classes of data Mozilla aims to collect, and the situations in which they collect them.
These are not the actions of an org that cares about your privacy.
Introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox
We’re introducing a Terms of Use for Firefox for the first time, along with an updated Privacy Notice.Kristina Bravo (The Mozilla Blog)
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in reply to Sarah Jamie Lewis • • •There is also the incredibly broad "To comply with applicable laws, and identify and prevent harmful, unauthorized or illegal activity." in which Mozilla states they may gather "all data types" - among the defined types include: searches, browsing data (visited URLS), content and any other data.
In support of nebulously defined "identify and prevent harmful," and in response to law enforcement.
That "learn more about" link just goes to a list of definitions.
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in reply to Sarah Jamie Lewis • • •This is far from the start of this journey, Mozilla have been working towards this point for many years.
A creeping corruption that I think has finally taken hold.
They themselves, say it best:
"Although we’ve historically relied on our open source license for Firefox and public commitments to you, we are building in a much different technology landscape today"
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in reply to Sarah Jamie Lewis • • •I need a web browser, I need it to be open source. I need it to be secure and maintainable. I need it to work in my best interests.
Firefox is no longer that browser, I'll be working to move off of it. I don't think there is an obvious place to go, yet.
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in reply to Mauve 👁💜 • • •@mauve Using any Chromium-based browser gives Google leverage to dictate how the web works, which they should not have, because they cannot be trusted.
Chrome is the new IE6.
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in reply to Mauve 👁💜 • • •@mauve I use LibreWolf. It's a Firefox fork, so if a site works in FF, it should work in LW, though may need some minor tweaking, as LW ships with stricter defaults. It works for substantially all sites for me.
Me using a non-Chrome browser doesn't put pressure on Google, nor do I think they'd be responsive if it did.
There are two problems here. If we're talking pressure, web developers are who need it, because when one rendering engine has the dominant marketshare that Blink does, they can ignore the others without much consequence (to them). That's a barrier to switching. Same story as IE in the naughts, we know this already.
The second problem is having a browser you can switch to. Any Firefox fork is a short-term bandaid over the gaping wound of Mozilla's poor stewardship, which will only continue to worsen; if Mozilla goes away, or gets bought by ghouls, or continues becoming ghouls themselves, those can't continue independently. And the web is so complex now that it's its own barrier to entry.
I don't know what to do about that. Probably the likeliest outcome is that we admit the corpos won, they colonized the web, and it's time to start rethinking this stuff from the ground up.
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in reply to egregious philbin • • •@ieure Yeah LibreWolf is a great option tbh. Is there a mobile equivalent?
I think Dev pressure is really not enough. I can't even do calls in slack in Firefox even though it has a decent WebRTC impl. I think a lot of it is lazyness tbh. But how can I pressure slack? I just have to open chrome for work. I'm glad there's at least degoogled forks even if they die off periodically.
Have you tried out ladybird? ladybird.org/
Ladybird
ladybird.orgegregious philbin
in reply to Mauve 👁💜 • • •@mauve LW doesn't have an Android version. I use Fennec, which is similar.
I'm aware of Ladybird, but the lead dev seems like a real shithead. Heard about this basically the day after I heard of Ladybird:
github.com/SerenityOS/serenity…
He's also an active blue-check Twitter user. Guy's out there telling everyone who he is.
Gender neutral language within build instructions by Tunas1337 · Pull Request #6814 · SerenityOS/serenity
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in reply to egregious philbin • • •@ieure @mauve It's a long-running pattern of behavior that has gotten worse lately, either emboldened as other tech figures come out as fascist without consequences, or falling further down some fascist internet rabbit hole (or both).
The lead Ladybird dev is now essentially endorsing white replacement theory: corteximplant.net/objects/f2d3…
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in reply to Sarah Jamie Lewis • • •The greenest browser on Earth
www.ecosia.orgSarah Jamie Lewis
in reply to Sarah Jamie Lewis • • •For those asking what my current plan is:
I'm going to push forward on migrating my use of more complex web apps to a standalone equivs where available (e.g. mastodon / rss readers)
In the short term, probably tor browser to do more general browsing. I trust that team to be able to strip out most of the bad, and keep the rest generally locked down.
Long term: It's time to really commit to building something better.
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in reply to Sarah Jamie Lewis • • •Now trying out Tuba on Linux as a local mastodon client. A few rough edges to get it up and running (that I mostly attribute to my not-at-all standard linux setup)
But I think this could work...
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